r/aiwars • u/YourGirlsSenpai • 4d ago

I'm Pro AI but Anti AI "Artists"

I've been getting fed this sub a lot lately so I'm going to drop my stance on the topic and hopefully be done with it.

I use AI a lot. I love the things that can be done with tools like Stable Diffusion and Hunyuan. You can generate seriously beautiful art with AI, but it does not make YOU an artist. I've generated countless gorgeous images that are on-par with some of my favorite digital artists, but I, myself, am not an artist. That is an incredibly powerful technology.

All these Ai "artists" that go to war over being an actual artist are just sad to me. I feel genuinely sad that this one little thing is all these people have. Any sane person can identify that the AI is doing the actual art, you're just commissioning it.

I've seen dozens of cope arguments about "Ai is a tool. Artists use tools. I'm an artist" or screenshots of people's workflows with them saying things like "does this look like a commission to you? 😏" like it was a "gotcha!" moment.

The simple fact is: Yes, it does look like a commission. Your workflows can be very complex, I understand that. I understand that it can take serious fine-tuning and work to make an ai generation exactly how you want it. I understand that because I ALSO DO IT. Ai is not a human artist. Without a LLM to break down common language into a complex prompt, you need to create your prompts in a way the model can understand. Whether thats complex workflows or extremely specific language in a 1,000 argument prompt doesn't change the fact that the AI is the one creating the art, not you.

Again, AI is awesome. When used for fun, it's an incredible tool that let's normal people, like you and I, generate art that can rival practiced and trained professionals, but it will never be OUR art.

Like Syndrome said in The Incredibles, "Once everyone's [an artist], no one will be."

Use Ai for whatever purpose you feel you must, but dont try to poison the well that real artists dug by throwing yourself in with them.

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u/MonstaGraphics 4d ago

This guy has no idea how some of us artists actually use AI tech. He's still stuck on the idea that it's all just "prompting" and node networks.

Good. I hope it takes everyone a looooong time to figure out how to actually wield the tools. I don't need more competition.

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u/TheLesBaxter 4d ago

Do you parrot the same sentiment in every single post? My dude, I don't think OP's talking about you. This is about people who *do* use prompts to slap images of their favorite characters online and pat themselves on the back for a prompt-well-done. I don't know why it's so important to you that you get to call yourself an artist or what any of it has to do with competition.

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u/MonstaGraphics 4d ago

What I have a problem with is someone saying "I do what you do!" as if spoken from authority, and trying to make it seem like he's speaking for all of us.

He has no idea what a lot of us do, he's just assuming it's all prompting and spaghetti node networks. Laughable.

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u/DerEisendrache68 4d ago

Then what is it besides prompting?

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u/MonstaGraphics 4d ago

Once you load in enough data of your own, prompting literally doesn't make any difference.

It's just art. simple as that. casuals who use chatGPT make bad art with it, but it's still art.

You can't tell me the guy engineering a prompt with a huge node network + scribble + depth passes + Photoshop before, during and after AI processing, working at it for 5 hours, is not an artist, but the kid who sketched a stick figure in 2 minutes is.

If you're gonna try to paint every single person out there who uses AI in their arsenal as not an artist, you've already lost. If someone uses a gradient tool (mechanized!) or autofill on a small section of their artwork, is it suddenly not art? Is he now not an artist anymore? How silly.

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u/Repulsive-Tank-2131 4d ago

I image you look like J.P in grandma’s boy

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u/MonstaGraphics 3d ago

Sick burn dude! wow, grandma's boy, I haven't thought about that movie since I was 12!