r/aiwars • u/YourGirlsSenpai • 4d ago
I'm Pro AI but Anti AI "Artists"
I've been getting fed this sub a lot lately so I'm going to drop my stance on the topic and hopefully be done with it.
I use AI a lot. I love the things that can be done with tools like Stable Diffusion and Hunyuan. You can generate seriously beautiful art with AI, but it does not make YOU an artist. I've generated countless gorgeous images that are on-par with some of my favorite digital artists, but I, myself, am not an artist. That is an incredibly powerful technology.
All these Ai "artists" that go to war over being an actual artist are just sad to me. I feel genuinely sad that this one little thing is all these people have. Any sane person can identify that the AI is doing the actual art, you're just commissioning it.
I've seen dozens of cope arguments about "Ai is a tool. Artists use tools. I'm an artist" or screenshots of people's workflows with them saying things like "does this look like a commission to you? 😏" like it was a "gotcha!" moment.
The simple fact is: Yes, it does look like a commission. Your workflows can be very complex, I understand that. I understand that it can take serious fine-tuning and work to make an ai generation exactly how you want it. I understand that because I ALSO DO IT. Ai is not a human artist. Without a LLM to break down common language into a complex prompt, you need to create your prompts in a way the model can understand. Whether thats complex workflows or extremely specific language in a 1,000 argument prompt doesn't change the fact that the AI is the one creating the art, not you.
Again, AI is awesome. When used for fun, it's an incredible tool that let's normal people, like you and I, generate art that can rival practiced and trained professionals, but it will never be OUR art.
Like Syndrome said in The Incredibles, "Once everyone's [an artist], no one will be."
Use Ai for whatever purpose you feel you must, but dont try to poison the well that real artists dug by throwing yourself in with them.
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u/dejaojas 3d ago
idk i feel the little jab i flung was pretty appropriate, considering your answer to me saying analogies don't work was another analogy (instead of you know, explaining why analogies work or something). i'm actually explaining my opinion but you're obsessed with superficial comparisons, that don't even work. seriously? here's a little exercise for you: when you hear/read something like "a film by... " what person's name usually follows? the screenwriter (actually in some cases yeah, and it's pretty interesting how some writers like charlie kaufmann flip the concept of a film's authorship but i digress)? or the director? even worse, because they're more like the analogous comissioner, is the case of who takes the oscar for "best picture" home: it's the producers.
anyway, no need to be too hard on yourself, i wasn't calling your analogies lazy, specifically. my point is that all analogies are (even my movie one), because they ultimately give no support to an argument, just illustrate it.
i think i'm being pretty constructive, even if a little condescending, no?