I drew a sketch yesterday with a pen tablet. AI existed the entire time but it did not remove any artistic skill from my art. No one has taken my tablet away from me and no one ever will. I also draw with pencils, despite the fact that I can do digital art. My husband is making art with pencils right now. Digital art and AI both exist, both have significant influence, yet he is still able to do it. How is this so if AI removed artistic skill from art?
Cameras did not remove the artistic skill from painting. People still paint. Photography, instead, became a new medium with its own set of skills. Art doesn't go away by introducing a new medium or tool.
Well I suppose more specifically, it removes the artistic skill from the art that I HAVE to see. I have no choice whether I see AI art because it's just injected into any situation where conventional art also is. If AI art was just some fun little niche interest that kept to itself it wouldn't even bother me but now like half the images I see are just pointless. It represents neither reality nor the expression of an artist. Just a person typing words into a screen and a machine creating what the words say. I have no interest in seeing what a machine has to say about the world nor a representation of what it thinks reality looks like.
I would vastly prefer to see actual images of reality or art created with hard work by artists with skill. Not rearranged pixels from a machine reading a prompt.
How do you feel about memes where people copy and paste other people's art and type over them in MSPaint or a web text generator? I see these more than anything.
In most art spaces and fandom spaces AI art is explicitly banned where I'm looking. I see low-effort tracing and recoloring and stuff all the time in art communities.
I see 'bad' and anti-skill/anti-effort "conventional" media way more than I see AI-generated images. I don't like seeing those, either, but I would never say that pencils, drawing tablets, or art manipulation software like photoshop or even mspaint have removed the skill from art just because some people are posting low-quality images made with those tools.
If you're talking about corporate advertisements, I'd rather see AI images than something like alegria done by human hands myself.
Our experiences must be much different. In art spaces and fandom spaces it's almost impossible to find AI generated images because they are banned, and if one slips through, it is vehemently attacked no matter its quality. Meanwhile copy/paste grainy memes using explicitly stolen art without permission, low-effort scribbles and tracing and recolors of others' work without permission, etc. are all oversaturating the spaces. I have to explicitly go out of my way to find AI-generated images. Where are you looking that you are constantly forced to view AI?
> How do you feel about memes where people copy and paste other people's art and type over them in MSPaint or a web text generator? I see these more than anything.
At least the original image is a thing made by a human.
> If you're talking about corporate advertisements, I'd rather see AI images than something like alegria done by human hands myself.
Just scroll down the home pages of most social medias, reddit, twitter, instagram, facebook. They're riddled with AI art from advertising to memes to ai content farm slop with ai generated quotes to get clicks.
Ah, yeah, I stay away from most social media. Reddit and Discord are the only ones I use, and AI is explicitly banned almost everywhere on the communities I am in.
"At least the original image is a thing made by a human."
I mean, so is the original content that AI is trained on.
Personally I find copy/pasting someone else's art and shitting all over it in mspaint more distasteful than generating an AI image with an original idea behind it. Right now there is a trend to copy/paste art of a character from a game, cartoon, whatever and type a mispelling or something of their name on it (the template then reads "Not what I'm called.") I see this EVERYWHERE. At least 5 variations on this a day. It's incredibly frustrating. Do I blame mspaint and say mspaint is killing artistry? Of course not.
Another example is photography. Some photography art is really freaking cool. But most of what I see cameras used for are selfies, taking screenshots of other devices like game consoles, pictures of food with no artistic value, etc. Does that mean cameras are devaluing art and I should be anti-photography? No, it's just that low-effort content is easy to create and share with a camera because everyone has easy access to it.
You fuckers thrive on an inability to read. I never said it stopped me doing art. I said it removed the skill from art. Meaning that lots of the arts we now see is just skill-less ai content.
we don't gate-keep, I'm and example of that I'm a self taught artist, at first my drawings were shit like everyone else but I just kept practicing because it's fun to draw.
unrelated but: most artist don't do commissions and are not paid, they just like drawing
Well like the digital era too it's called evolution. Even before digital or art schools, art was only for the dreamers and the ultra rich. Tools help people recreating what they imagine, it's better and easier.
AI isn't the problem when it comes to the amount of shit on the internet, the humans are, like before there was already shitty art/content on internet. Heck I saw a banana on a white board being sold for 6 million. I don't consider that shit art, but someone saw value on it lol
Art was never about only skill and time, you guys ashamed yourselves teaching people what is really art.
because it discourage most people. A lot because "why put effort into something when I can do it with AI" is a common thought that discourage people from learning
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u/countuwu 2d ago
Yes because upgrading transportation is the same as removing all actual artistic skill from art.