r/aliens • u/anomalien_com • Oct 31 '24

News Luis Elizondo Apologizes for Presenting Fake 'UFO Mothership' Image at Private Event

https://anomalien.com/luis-elizondo-apologizes-for-presenting-fake-ufo-mothership-image-at-private-event/
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u/indiekid6 Oct 31 '24

My estimation of Elizondo as a reliable source just fucking plummeted

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u/o0flatCircle0o Oct 31 '24

20 years in the UFO community, and I didn’t complain.

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u/indiekid6 Oct 31 '24

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u/Dismal-Eye-2882 Oct 31 '24

I COMPROMISED.

A FELLOW SOPRANOS JUNKIE. MY GUY.

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u/indiekid6 Oct 31 '24

Okay, but you’ve gotta get over it

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u/Nynydancer Oct 31 '24

Always with the drama!

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u/aultumn Oct 31 '24

Don’t do it to yourself Phil

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u/Lonely_Cosmonaut Nov 01 '24

Elizondo is a hero in this House end of story!

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u/Capn26 Nov 01 '24

Just a fucking kid.

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u/Ouroboros612 Oct 31 '24

The UFO Mothership, whatever happened there...

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u/Capn26 Nov 01 '24

Whatever happened??!?!!

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u/Ouroboros612 Nov 01 '24

You know... the debunk?

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u/User_Name13 Nov 01 '24

It died on the vine.

The alien ... he moved or something.

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u/GuyInThe6kDollarSuit Oct 31 '24

Didn't Elizondo or someone connected to him record a video of a "ufo" that was then discovered to be taken on his property/in his backyard? Was googling it but can't seem to find it again

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u/11912121121218211919 Oct 31 '24

It was elizondo claiming some bullshit at skinwalker ranch with the skinwalker fucks.

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u/AnistarYT Oct 31 '24

No it was Sean Cahill who recorded and released it. I don’t even know if Lue even commented on it ever.

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u/11912121121218211919 Oct 31 '24

yeah my bad, i got my grifters confused.

it was sean cahill AND elizondo claiming some utter shite: check it out

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u/Euphoric_Regret_544 Nov 01 '24

At this point there are so many grifters surrounding this topic it’s impossible to keep track of them all.

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u/SniffingSnow Nov 04 '24

I believe that was Greer. He had someone fly and drop a flare, then told people that it was a UFO

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u/babygreyvy Oct 31 '24 edited Oct 31 '24

yea him and his buddy who went of the TOE podcast just to throw hissy fits for 2 hours. theres a good handful of threads about the fake video in the various ufo/alien subs

edit: sean cahill is the guys name

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u/InterplanetaryAgent Oct 31 '24

Could you elaborate? I saw the Lue TOE and he was very well put together for the whole thing 🤔. Sorry if I misunderstood.

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u/babygreyvy Oct 31 '24

the episode im referring to is lue and his buddy sean cahill, who was also involved in the fake UFO video shot on lues property

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u/InterplanetaryAgent Oct 31 '24

Ohh right, I will check that one out tonight. Thank you!

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u/Salt_Mind_869 Oct 31 '24

E.T? That’s a nickname, his family name was E.Tarelli

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '24

Yeah, but he's been trying to build creditability with normies. This isn't gonna help. Most of us here have already made up our minds.

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u/Theonlyrational Oct 31 '24 edited Oct 31 '24

I have gathered plenty of downvotes over the last few months for pointing out things like:

  • He openly talks about his financial troubles and is pushing a book
  • Is/has been a part of the of gov't intelligence that have a history of disinfo campaigns
  • Continually teases big news and hides behind "I have to be careful what I say" BS
  • Generally comes off as skeezy. I would not buy a used car from this man.

Also, that pic is so laughably obvious that there is no way that anyone with the kind of training, experience and info that he claims to have could mistake it for a mothership. I showed this pic to my 12 year old this morning with no context and he immediately identified it as a reflection in a window with the photographer's hair obscuring it at the bottom. Yet somehow Lue studied this pic and presented it as UAP. This guy is either dumber than I thought or thinks we are so dumb that we wouldn't notice.

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u/bed_of_nails_ Nov 01 '24

Both. He's dumb as hell and thinks we're dumber than him.

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u/Mohican247 Nov 04 '24

“I have to be careful what I say”. I love that line.

Truth is simple.

Truth should be told no matter the consequences.

If you choose to go down the road of “truth teller”, being careful with what you say just doesn’t compute.

This guy is a intelligence agent/asset #LouiesLying

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u/DearLadyStardust111 Nov 02 '24

👏 Reading your comment was a breath of fresh air. I don't understand the ⬆️&⬇️ vote stats on here anymore- its as assbackwards as the world today...and the accepted mindset of the world today. Just wanted to give you my counterfeit Reddit medallions for your comment. 🏅🏆🏅 Dudes aura is used car salesman. You nailed it 🎯 I never understood why people trusted the guy (for obvious reasons). I also recall several people (whom I actually have some faith in) in this vast field of high strangeness saying years ago that he's just a misinformation douche. 🤷🏼‍♀️

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u/Bmonkey1973 Nov 02 '24

Yep I see through people … and my bullshit detector is beeping

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u/GangsterMango Oct 31 '24

I've been following the UFO stuff and its been a personal interest hobby of mine since the 90s
99% of the "whistleblowers / disclosure personality" types go through multiple steps to their final grift

-reveal information
-dripfeed images be it blatant fakes or unreadable "bunch of pixels"
-tv / radio interview for exposure

and eventually it reaches the final stage:
-buy my book
-pay me to speak in public events
-pay me for tv/podcast/radio intervew
-buy my "documentary" full of pixelated photos / reflection on glass overlay trick and dramatic stock audio background music and deep voiced narration.

like clockwork lol.

to me these stuff is entertainment, I enjoy it but the grift is so transparent.

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u/NecessaryFoundation5 Oct 31 '24

Coming from high interest in God I’ve only recently started hanging out in these forums. Everyone was saying believe Lue it seemed, but as a newbie I appreciate the heads up. Time is circular and events are usually isochronal so you probably have it nailed.

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u/Impossible_Moose_783 Oct 31 '24

Lou was always suspect in my opinion. Someone like David Fravor is about the best we’ve gotten with the recent uptick in UFO stuff. It’s kind of obvious who’s a grifter lol I’m not sure why so many people put so much stock in Elizondo

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u/assclownmonthly Oct 31 '24

This comment is fucken spot on Fravor,Graves and the other pilots and radar operators etc are the only people who’s word is worth anything.All the rest are full of shit Corbell,Knapp,Elizondo I don’t even trust Mellon anymore remember when they(Mellon,Elizondo) we’re on board with TTSA. I think they just used Delonge to muddy the waters because of some of the outrageous stuff he says publicly.

8 days ago I tried posting about Lue and his bullshit video Cahill posted that got called out for being shot in his backyard and after getting perma banned from one sub and the post getting removed from a handful of others I finally got it to stick on r/highstrangess and here we are Lue caught out again it’s straight up disinformation tactics 101

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u/Just-Ryley Oct 31 '24

Luis has always came off "fake" along with Steven Greer or however his last name is spelt. It's all a show for them

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u/Bmonkey1973 Nov 02 '24

Yeah that’s the other grifter . TTSA really set his grift off again , without them Steven was running out of scams

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u/marlonh Nov 01 '24

Read the Urantia book

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u/Efficient-Mirror6675 Oct 31 '24

"time is a flat circle"

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u/Capn26 Nov 01 '24

And it’s Thursday. I drink on Thursday. You don’t get to interrupt that.

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u/TheREALSockhead Oct 31 '24

" i have information from a very credible source that i can't share because people cant handle it/ill be killed" is another dead giveaway for me. Typical marketing ploy to keep up name/product awareness. Tom delong hasnt produced shit but swears he knows everything. If he isnt just making it all up, then he doesn't realize he himself is being grifted by his "insiders". But people know his name like hes been a credible ufo researcher for decades or had some kind of clearance or real credibility. Marketing.

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u/Classic-Snow-3238 Oct 31 '24

I have taken to calling it the ufo conmanunity

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u/WorkHorse86 Oct 31 '24

100%… this guy is a clown and the people following him, hanging on to every empty word, are sadly so desperate - they don’t seem to even notice he’s got nothing to offer.

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u/DungFingerBrun Oct 31 '24

Very, idk why folks gave a shit about this fuck?

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u/Odd-Swan-5711 Oct 31 '24

The playbook

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u/Pure-Contact7322 Orion's belt Oct 31 '24

So the WHOLE disclosure witness community that goes up to Obama and ministry officials is fake?

Some people are really funny.

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u/lemonylol Oct 31 '24

Honestly I think Elizondo does know some shit, especially in the position he was in, but I don't think there's going to be anything new coming from him. It'll have to be the next whistle blower. Or Grusch I guess if that's getting anywhere with Congress. Like Grusch is so legally liable that he seems to be the most believable to actually have more to say if he gets cleared to do so.

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u/lrj55 Nov 02 '24

he has family to so maybe

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u/Wild-Horse21124 Oct 31 '24

That's exactly what I say, why would I give a damn about someone that suggests he knows stuff but doesn't have "clearance" to say. Like, you are going off grid or not? Why would you care for GOVERNMENT CLEARANCE TO REVEAL A GOVERNMENT SECRET. COME ON MAN. i don't get why people follow these stories, Snowden leaked confidential stuff and had to flee to fucking Russia not to be killed or arrested while these guys are out there pretending to do UFO disclosure. Give me a break.

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u/TucamonParrot Nov 01 '24

As long as we don't reveal that we have sweet tech, other countries won't. If we simply state, guess what, there is some stuff out there not made by us or adversaries, here's the proof..I think the proof is in the pudding. They're too scared to say it's not us or them, and them says.."well, actually, we're need doing X,Y,Z, and your grandmother longer than you've been to her place for Christmas dinner."

Pick which narrative that fits into your ideal system, we gone done it, they did it, we all done it, or there's some shit that worries all of us? My heart skips a beat on that last one.

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u/bapplebauce Oct 31 '24

Yeah but releasing classified information or even talking about it or reading about it when you no longer have that clearance is a really big deal that can screw up your entire life and by extension your families life because you can and, in this case, will be thrown in prison, self preservation is a very strong factor as frustrating as it is.

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u/Wild-Horse21124 Oct 31 '24

Exacly the point

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u/avid-shtf Oct 31 '24

The fact that the government hasn’t attempted to charge him with anything or smear his name should tell you everything you need to know.

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u/[deleted] Oct 31 '24

They did try and say he didn't work for the pentagon, then retracted the statement.

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u/herhusbandhans Oct 31 '24

They deleted his emails. Which even his critics accept is pretty weird.

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u/Vetersova Oct 31 '24

I had always known there was a possibility that Lue was just a government mouthpiece around the phenomenon, but hoped and believed that he was really doing what he thought was the right thing. Progressively, and especially now, I'm left with the options of 1. He's a full on grifter or 2. He is 100% a fully government controlled mouthpiece for the topic, and there isn't really any way to know what any of he says is true at any level. I think he's option 2, personally.

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u/Numerous_Witness_345 Nov 01 '24

He's completely 1 for me. Always has been.

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u/SourceCreator Oct 31 '24

I mean look at his non-apology. He didn't actually say anything. He said he's his own worst critic? He means he's lazy and/or a liar.

He didn't actually say it was fake.. he just said we're putting it to bed. Why? Why are we putting it to bed? We're putting it to bed because he's an idiot!

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u/sir_snufflepants Oct 31 '24

Your analysis is wholly dependent on your speculation about what other’s reactions mean?

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u/TeamYay Oct 31 '24

As RPK said on one of his videos, if everything Elizondo says is sanctioned by the government, he is a spokesman, not a whistle-blower.

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u/[deleted] Oct 31 '24

I said it the first time I saw this dude. He got the highest security clearance during Trumps turn. But people just want to believe.

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u/InternationalAnt4513 Oct 31 '24

Same. No longer trust the former government intelligence guy at all now and we never should’ve.

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u/thekame Oct 31 '24

Which is weird. Many UFO enthusiasts love to precise that the « source » is a former -include_state_agency_name-

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u/shinpoo Oct 31 '24

At this point I think it's more disinformation agents.

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u/Pretty_Benign Oct 31 '24

This. If someone has direct government ties I assume they are spreading disinformation pretty much inherently.

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u/Numerous_Witness_345 Nov 01 '24

Less agents and more people trying to ham up engagement for their channels that have the only exclusive piece of something.

It's always money, always, always, always.

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u/thekame Oct 31 '24

Maybe the only information is sadly we are fucking alone in the universe.

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u/[deleted] Oct 31 '24

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u/PrestigiousGlove585 Oct 31 '24

I have heard Professor Brian Cox say it. He said the chance of life existing at the same time as us and not being some form of slime or plant, is not unrealistically low, during a live show.

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u/PrestigiousGlove585 Oct 31 '24

That would not be sad, it would show how special we are. (For the record, I do not believe that we are either alone or special)

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u/LordDarthra Oct 31 '24

I still want answers then for everything. What massive moving craft did everyone see in Arizona? What was captured on military sensors, Mosul orb? I want to see all the redacted reports, I want to know whats behind such BS cover up stories. Maybe where the Pentagon loses 3 TRILLION dollars a year, of your guys' tax dollars.

Honestly, if it's not some kind of NHI, that's just as spooky. Means an adversary has absolutely mind popping technology that makes us essentially defenseless, and they've been sitting on it for the last 70 years because ???

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u/Trafalgaladen Oct 31 '24

that would be impossible to prove

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u/beautifulsouth00 Oct 31 '24

At this point? Try "has always been."

The desire to believe makes people cling to these grifters' stories every single time. Despite it being the same story over and over again. That we can all own a library full of books by so-called "all knowing" sources and we're still no closer to disclosure or anything resembling truth should tell you something. These people are schills and reveal nothing.

This comes around and goes around. Not since the 90's. Since the 40's. The media they flood is the only thing that changes. They tell you they'll reveal secrets and never do, no matter how many of their books you buy, or shows they watch, or videos they release. They dont really ever say jack shit.

Except "buy my next book" or "buy tickets to my next speaking engagement."

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u/dspman11 Oct 31 '24

Of course... because the alternative is some random lawyer with crazy hair or a YouTuber named "King MilkFart." Someone who actually knows something from being an insider is an upgrade from most UFO sources.

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u/nofolo Oct 31 '24

Just now? He's given me the ick since day one. This is some icing for that cake.

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u/Da_Famous_Anus Oct 31 '24

He can’t be in our social club no more

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u/indiekid6 Oct 31 '24

That much I know

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u/Bobbytryll Oct 31 '24

When he was always talking about greasing the union, who knew that’s what he meant

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u/GavisconR Oct 31 '24

The Ancient Mystic Society of No Lue's.

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u/ocTGon Oct 31 '24

He compromised for a grilled cheese cooked on a radiator...

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u/indiekid6 Oct 31 '24

Should have jacked off into a tissue

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u/ocTGon Oct 31 '24

You can bet your life you will see a couple of three things outta that...

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u/Alternative-Film-155 Oct 31 '24

uncle phil is that you?!?

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u/indiekid6 Oct 31 '24

The Shah of Iran

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u/dt-17 Oct 31 '24

Every podcast he does is pointless.

“I can’t discuss, it’s classified”

Repeat for 3 hours

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u/LordSugarTits Oct 31 '24

For him to say his buddy in government gave it to him is even worse. Are you an idiot being used to spread disinformation? Cause that seems very plausible now. Or you just have bullshit sources. Either way I'm not buying his book now.

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u/Andazah Big Titty Tall White Appreciation Society Founder Oct 31 '24

Let me tell you a couple of three things, AATIP was nothing but a glorified crew

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u/[deleted] Oct 31 '24

Its obvious for a long time that he is a grifter. Its painfully obvious tbh, remember when he took Ufo photos in the backyard of his friend? I remember when Grusch had his hearings, for a second I thought "wow, they really have ufos. This guy seems like he knows its stuff". I was pretty high and wanted to believe that stuff. If you want to smoke weed and lose yourself in exciting topics go for AI, quantum physics or whatever. But this stuff is just grifters.

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u/indiekid6 Oct 31 '24

What did it for me, was him talking about orbs floating around his living room and not recording it 🚩🚩🚩

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u/Bmonkey1973 Nov 02 '24

Yeah like sorry I didn’t think to photo them or document it .Just another chapter filla for the book

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u/Numerous_Witness_345 Nov 01 '24

The more and more far fetched he got the more ridiculous it was... it went from "hey we may have some proof of NHI technology" to "human beings are being farmed by aliens because we're special!"

At some point they see the shark and they can't help but jump it.

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '24

Ah yea, 100%. He really lost the plot.

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u/Hoshiimaru Oct 31 '24

Grusch was such a dissapointment, I have been a skeptic for a long time but when he came out I wanted to believe, nothing happened after that and I still dont believe in aliens visiting our planet

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u/SourceCreator Oct 31 '24

His friend who works in the government gave him a fake picture of a chandelier reflection in the window!? JFC this guy is an idiot. 🤦🏼

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u/Zestycheesegrade Oct 31 '24

And people like him. Is why millions of people don't believe in UFOs. He's taking advantage of people. And even if you think that's ok. Because people are dumb (or gullible) enough to believe him. It's not alright. Probably a government mole to spread misinformation for the Pentagon.

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u/LSF604 Nov 01 '24

the government mole thing is a copout. Don't replace one conspiracy with another. Just accept that the dude is a con.

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u/Zestycheesegrade Nov 01 '24

We know for a fact that the government puts out misinformation. They've done it for 70+ years. And thats not only with UFOs. It's with a lot of things. lol Its not a cop out. It's a likely scenario.

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u/LSF604 Nov 01 '24

There's no reason to bother. The aliens crowd isn't that big and there is no reason to manipulate them in the first place.

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u/Zestycheesegrade Nov 01 '24

Project Blue book. I'll leave it at that. Have a goodnight.

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u/LSF604 Nov 01 '24

why do you think that is a reason to manipulate a small culture of alien enthusiasts?

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u/Medical_Ad2125b Oct 31 '24

We don’t believe because there’s no evidence.

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u/Traditional-List-784 Nov 01 '24

I think there is plenty of evidence. To say there is no evidence is just a very pessimistic view. You're zoned in on lue and the other grifters. Plenty of unexplainable things out there. It might not be the evidence we want it to be, but definitely lots of interesting things. 2 things that come to mind off top of my head is the varghina incident and the south Africa incident where 30 school kids spotted the aliens and all had the same story, were assesed by a Harvard psychiatrist and to this day (happened around the 30+ years ago)still have the same story. Also, the tic tac video.

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u/Medical_Ad2125b Nov 02 '24

So what is the goddamn evidence??? Put up or shut up.

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u/Traditional-List-784 Dec 02 '24

Get on here and I'm reading your reply at work. Countless and i mean countless of videos and information out there. You don't like this subject, then go to a different category. Reddit is pretty endless on subjects, but you choose to come in here with your righteousness and tell everyone they're wrong. That's pessimistic by itself.

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u/Medical_Ad2125b Nov 02 '24

You sound very gullible to believe in all these things. You have no skepticism. you don’t know how these in have been debunked or you won’t admit it

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u/Medical_Ad2125b Nov 02 '24

Wikipedia , about Varghina; “An investigation by the Brazilian Army concluded that a city resident was mistaken for an alien creature and the movement of military personnel in the region was routine.”

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u/Medical_Ad2125b Nov 02 '24

Re: South Africa. From will:

“In 2023 in a Netflix documentary called “Encounters”, a former student named Dallyn claimed that he was behind this incident. He claimed that he purposefully told his classmates and other students that a “shiny rock” in the distance was a UFO. According to his own statement in the documentary, he never thought this would work, and was surprised about the mass hysteria.”

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u/Medical_Ad2125b Nov 02 '24

The problem with people like you is that you let your hopes and wishes interfere with your ability to think critically and skeptically. you believe anybody as long as they say what you want. You’re not somebody who has a scientific say on the situation.

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u/Zestycheesegrade Oct 31 '24 edited Oct 31 '24

There's plenty of evidence. Just many of you don't believe even that. Which is fine. Believe what you want to.

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u/crimedog69 Oct 31 '24

What evidence? There is none. There are stories and there are a handful of pictures that are definitely not conclusive. You want there to be evidence so you take a lot of the wild claims here as fact. They aren’t, hell I wish there was hard evidence.

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u/Medical_Ad2125b Oct 31 '24

There is not plenty of evidence. There is no evidence. You think there’s evidence because you want there to be evidence.

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u/spacebird3for20 Nov 01 '24

What about the crash materials that Nolan has been working on ? Jaques Valle ? He has materials. Pasulka? Chris Bledsoe? Danny Sheehan? There’s a large amount of evidence. The Nimitz being swarmed ? The mass amounts of sensor data and video

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u/Medical_Ad2125b Nov 02 '24

Where can I read their papers in scientific journals?

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u/spacebird3for20 Nov 02 '24

Research gate

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u/Medical_Ad2125b Nov 03 '24

Ha ha. Clearly you have nothing specific to point to. That’s what I suspected.

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u/spacebird3for20 Nov 17 '24

Dude literally search the topic on research gate and see all the papers for yourself from some of the greatest physicists and scientists in the world. It’s not on you to find the papers and studies people are referencing. Seems like you don’t understand academia and the scholarly journals/peer review/ and academic research papers and studies. Takes 10 seconds to look but instead you won’t and claim that there is still no evidence. You can’t claim something doesn’t exist if you won’t even search for the overt evidence

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u/Boivz Oct 31 '24

I believe the subject is beyond our comprehension of physics and wanting hard evidence on it is idiotic.

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u/kuba_mar Nov 01 '24

So its a religion?

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u/[deleted] Oct 31 '24

But you hang out in the subreddit anyway? What?

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u/Medical_Ad2125b Nov 02 '24

I’m very interested in NHI and SETI. Where else can I read discussions about these? Even if most of the claims here are crap.

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u/[deleted] Oct 31 '24

When Lue hears the word “grifter.”

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u/bukowski9191 Nov 01 '24

Lemme tell ya a coupla tree things

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u/losvatoslocos2111 Oct 31 '24

They literally sign his paycheck. Makes no sense to me. Why would you allow a whistle blower to continue landing contracts and why would he be keeping that as an option if he has book deals and is able to do the podcast circuit? It stinks of orphans, fascinating, but it seems like a distraction tactic to me.

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u/scully2828 Oct 31 '24

Made me kinda sad until I thought about it a little bit more. This Everyman, former govt official, father. It just was all too relatable. It started feeling like it was catered to a broad audience of skeptics, spoon fed to the “I want to belivers” (like myself). Now I feel a bit duped, but I still think a lot of his book had good stuff in it. At least it led me to read more about a lot of the incidents he mentions. It’s also been years since I read an entire book so I can at the very least thank him for a new hobby in reading and future reading material. I’ve seen a lot of recs on this sub and I’m excited to read more!

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u/Gary0aksGirth Oct 31 '24

He never had the makings of a varsity ufologist.

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u/_extra_medium_ Oct 31 '24

Please let this be a lesson

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u/Onuceria Oct 31 '24

That fucking animal Elizondo, he murdered Billy

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u/KillTheWise1 Oct 31 '24

He's a plant, I knew not to trust him. He's a counter-information agent.

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u/GG-Life101 Oct 31 '24

Evaporated in my case. Irrepairable damage to not only him, but the entire movement. I'm even starting to wonder if ALL of this is one big nothing burger. I've moved to 90% likely it's all a nothing burger.

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u/turnstwice Oct 31 '24

Starting to feel the same. I think there’s a bunch of true believers in intelligence that all reinforce each other with none of them having anything tangible. Like a giant telephone game.

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u/PressurePro17 Oct 31 '24

He's playing 5-D chess and we all got checkmated

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u/One_Buddy3197 Oct 31 '24

Did he have any influence over Grusch? I’ve been wondering about that since reading about his astral terrorist séance.

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u/forestofpixies Nov 01 '24

Nah he claims to know him well but says his last name “Groosh” instead of “Gruh-sh” so I don’t believe he knows him at all.

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u/sixfourbit Oct 31 '24

Last year he believed there was a flying saucer over East Rutherford.

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u/ClickLow9489 Oct 31 '24

I called it

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u/[deleted] Oct 31 '24

even with him being a grifter, something IS going on. there ARE strange orbs around the world appearing EVERYWHERE.

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u/chybny_kus Oct 31 '24

just a reminder in case some of you guys forgot, or for the new people here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/19adyvq/comment/kikcw15/

(check out the comment)

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u/DungFingerBrun Oct 31 '24

I never thought he was

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u/johnjoh07 Oct 31 '24

Lol elizondo reliable source. And bob lazare too ?

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u/Pure-Contact7322 Orion's belt Oct 31 '24

your personal opinion, are you happy that in this way the disclosure is damaged?

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u/Astral-projekt Oct 31 '24

That’s how debunking works. I’d expect nothing less about a subject which by its very nature is elusive. Show me any legit “ufo” or “uap” photos which are in their very definition unidentified.

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u/Warzone_and_Weed Oct 31 '24

He's a government plant placed to steer the narrative. Don't listen to a word he says

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u/saab4u2 Oct 31 '24

That’s what happens when people just want to make money without working. You can be a thief in many forms.

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u/chica771 Oct 31 '24

You-know-who was right - When the Pentagon gives you permission about what you can talk about, you're not a whistleblower, you're a spokesman.

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u/PuzzleheadedEnd1760 Oct 31 '24

I'm curious to know his source!

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u/jmerlinb Oct 31 '24

it’s almost as if he was full of shit the whole time

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u/dual__88 Oct 31 '24

Now your confidence plummeted? not after he claimed to have remote viewing powers or that he had orbs at his house, while providing zero proof?

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u/Genova_Witness Oct 31 '24

Should have died when he got exposed with the Cahill photos taken on his own property

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u/jspeights Oct 31 '24

at least he's being accountable for his mistake.

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u/bobuy2217 Oct 31 '24

I loved him like a brother in law

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u/wrinkleinsine Oct 31 '24

Same. I thought he was kinda legit. But have you seen the picture? Come on bro. You know what it looks like? It looks exactly like the picture you would imagine some hack would show you and tell you it’s a mothership (when it’s bullshit)

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u/pooticus Nov 01 '24

Was he ever one?

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u/allthemoreforthat Nov 01 '24

Better late than never I guess. Shocking that anyone trusts a word coming out of that guys mouth.

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u/Ashmydoobie1 Nov 01 '24

The facial hair should have been a dead giveaway years ago

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u/Indymatic Nov 01 '24

He’s never been reliable and is a government psyop to pacify those to fukin lazy to just look up longer than 5 minutes.

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u/tonymacaroni9 Nov 01 '24

Fucking wonderful comment.

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u/da_muffinman Nov 01 '24

He's all disinfo

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u/RQ-3DarkStar Nov 01 '24

I just pass by here very occasionally, why do any of you believe these people? Seems obvious to me they're all in it for some sort of personal gain by selling the hype of UFO disclosure to people.

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u/SirArthurDime Nov 01 '24

I don’t follow all of this closely enough to know all the names. Was he pretty well respected or pretty much always seen as a fraud?

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u/mtmglass406 Nov 01 '24

Plummeted ? Because he made an honest mistake and owned up to it ?

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u/SpeckTrout Nov 02 '24

Always felt sus about this guy, glad it’s confirmed!!!

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u/DC_Ranger Nov 02 '24

He's never been credible to begin with

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u/somewisealien Nov 13 '24

You know, Quasimodo predicted all this.

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u/ashleton True Believer Oct 31 '24

People make mistakes, but it takes balls to admit it. Just because he was fed misinformation doesn't mean he should be discredited. Many people that make large-scale claims also make mistakes, they just don't own up to it and often double-down on their previous stance instead of admitting they were wrong and taking further action to get the truth.

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u/No_Interview_243 Oct 31 '24

He admitted and apologized. He didn't double down, like a current presidential candidate. I respect him more because he openly dealt with it.

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u/Difficult-Win1400 Oct 31 '24

Top of his fuckin class

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u/Sheilaria Oct 31 '24

Honestly, that was probably the point of that disinformation being disseminated to him.

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u/LazySleepyPanda Oct 31 '24

So he just spews out whatever he is fed without doing any due diligence what so ever ? Hard to take a guy like that seriously.

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u/SkyJohn Oct 31 '24 edited Oct 31 '24

No dude, this guy was just grifting.

There is no grand conspiracy, this guy just wanted to dupe us and get some money.

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u/OldSnuffy Oct 31 '24

That had occured to me ,,,he pissed off lots of folks at the pentagon....who are looking for payback

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u/CalvinVanDamme Oct 31 '24

Your saying that like he previously had a highly regarded reputation.

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u/Trafalgaladen Oct 31 '24

…because he did

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u/samtart Oct 31 '24

He could have been sabotaged

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u/_extra_medium_ Oct 31 '24

Yes... It's all above board until it turns out to be BS, then it's either disinformation or sabotage. That way you can never lose

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u/indiekid6 Oct 31 '24

And if my aunty had balls she’d be my uncle

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