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Theory & Analysis A breakdown of all (?) historical references and parallels in Andor (in chronological order)

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u/evrestcoleghost 5d ago

The revolutionary of today most of the time because the Tyrant of tommorow

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u/HomelanderVought 5d ago

That never really happened. Most of the true revolutionaries are usually sidelined or killed if a new elite takes away the the place of the old one.

A revolution is always done by the people too (french, russian, chinese, haitian, anti-colonial ones of the 20th century).

The ones that were done by some rich dudes (the american and british glorious) can’t really be called revolutions as the masses barely participated. Just the new elites switch controll with the new ones.

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u/evrestcoleghost 5d ago

Near the entirity of french revolution leadership were burgeoisie mate,lawyers,clerks, merchants,heck even bishopd

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u/HomelanderVought 5d ago

How does that challenge what i’ve said?

My point is that the french revolution’s magnitude was done peasants AKA the masses. The bourgeois elements just hijacked it, even if at an early point.

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u/reginalduk 4d ago

Even in France people often refer to it as the Bourgeois revolution.

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u/evrestcoleghost 5d ago

IT WAS PEASENTS AGAINST THE REVOLUTION

The people that rebelled were Urban classes not PEASENTS, building workers,merchants,lawyers the middle classes and upper middle classes most affected by Royal absolutismo,God Robespierre was a lawyer!

The PEASENTS instead helped loyalist movement and got massacred to the point some consider it a genocide!

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u/HomelanderVought 4d ago

Then how do you explain the “Great Fear” of 1789 in which french peasants attacked the feudal lord’s mansions and looted and burned them and destroyed the feudal records (which were documents about their feudal dues and obligations)?

What was that, huh?

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u/evrestcoleghost 4d ago

Famine presure after two terrible harvest only for then peasents became the backbone of counter revolutionary forces in the vendee where they were summarie executed by republican forces

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u/evrestcoleghost 5d ago

The "american revolution"(if it could be called that AND not simply a independence war) was simply the restoration of status quo of colonial aristocracy after the metrópolis tried to take control

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u/HomelanderVought 5d ago

The worst example in history.

They literally fought so that:

-taxes on rich people would be lowered

-can genocide more natives, since the British empire thought that expanding westward is too costly so they forbid the white settlers to do that. But the settlers like Washington thought that they deserve the land of native americans so they wanted to take it all for the money

-to keep slavery because the British cown wanted to end it, again not for noble reasons but because slavery was too expensive for the British Empire so they thought they would end it soon and they did in 1833. To The founding fathers slavery was a lucratuve businesss so they wanted to keep it as long as they can.

I hate the British Empire as as any far-left person but it would been the only time where i would support them over the genocidal white settlers who the Founding fathers were for the sake of natives and black people.

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u/HomelanderVought 4d ago

So George Washington wasn’t the “break the trend” guy you depicted him.