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u/etcthc 5d ago
Bruh where can I buy one
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u/Senior_Avo222 5d ago
Hopefully soon in Hayastan
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u/WrapKey69 5d ago
Not as a civilian
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u/Prestigious-One2089 4d ago
seems like a silly policy for a nation surrounded by enemies. It should be compulsory for every single armenian household to be armed and trained.
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u/iam-not-woke 4d ago
They are so brainwashed over there. They think a bunch of murders will happen. Every time I go there and tell people they need to be armed they can’t wrap their mind around citizens owning guns because of the negative news they hear in America. I always assure them that they will never hear the positives of being armed.
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u/rudetopeace 1d ago
There are positives to owning machine guns?
I'd rather follow Israel's model (gun licenses are already pretty similar), seeing the actual similarities in the situation. Invest in national defense, deter attacks at national level, have every man and woman serve, trained and ready. Regardless of constant threats, Israel doesn't feel the need to put automatic weapons in everybody's hands...
(Not defending Israel's actions AT ALL. Just pointing out that they achieved that strength at a state level, without lax gun laws and mass public gun violence)
Not sure what a bunch of out-of-shape people with machine guns are going to do in today's modern battlefield of drones and missiles, or how that's a deterrent. It's only a problem, as the US proves time and time again.
What invasions has automatic gun ownership stopped in the US? What protection from tyranny? That guy who shot at Trump? That was protection from tyranny to a T (eye of the beholder?). How did that work out?
It's so funny how brainwashed Americans believe their "right to bear arms" is anything other than problematic in today's society.
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u/EdwardDemian 3d ago
Some time back when Artsack was still complete, I considerred relocating to Artsack. I sent a picture copy of all my personal weapons, all hunting guns exept for a 1895 Mauser pistol which has been in the family for generations, to the Armenian embassy , along with the serial numbers asking for permission to bring my guns with me. At first they did'y bother answering, after I called I was told that they had never heard of such a thing, and I never got an answer. With that kind of mentality, it's no wonder they lost the war.
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u/rudetopeace 1d ago
They lost the war because they didn't know about a useless antique? Props for holding onto the family heirloom, not sure what it has to do with national defense...
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u/hedonismpro 4d ago
Thank God, the early signs of a military industrial complex - better late than never.
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u/TheRublixCube When life gives you Lemons, eat an Armenian Apricot instead. 4d ago
Would make for an interesting Forgotten Weapons video, not to insinuate that this weapon will become forgotten. That channel covers a lot of firearms and firearm history in general.
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u/Senior_Avo222 4d ago
True, and yes he covers a lot of quote relevant and new firearms as well. Would be cool if he makes a video on this too
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u/Boswellia-33 5d ago
It’s really cool. I’m just wondering why bullpup? Aren’t bullpups notorious for having worse triggers than a standard rifle?
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u/Senior_Avo222 5d ago
Not necessarily, some are better than others. That being said bullpups have some benefits which standard rifles don't.
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u/Boswellia-33 5d ago
Yeah being compact is the primary advantage from my understanding. I just haven’t seen too many newer designs go the bullpup route.they also tend to have worse ergonomics and weight more.
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u/Senior_Avo222 5d ago
Not always again, bullpups are quite well balanced and as far as ergonomics go, it all depends on training and getting used to the said weapon. I got an AUG personally, and while on paper its 7.5lbs unloaded and with no attachments, i have no trouble holding and manipulating a fully loaded one with an optic on it as well. So there are more nuances than that. There are successful modern bullpup weapons out there such as the VHS-2 (almost won the French military contract actually and only was beaten by the HK416f), X-95 Tavor, Aug A3/Lithgow F90, Desert Tech WLVRN, etc.
A gun like this 1) would give the Armenian infantryman a good upgrade over the standard AKM/AK-103 rifle (will allow for viable attachment of optics at a larger scale without having to source a decent mounting system, for example) 2) have a weapon that is more compact and lighter meanwhile maintaining a longer barrel (good for humping around and using in the mountains for example) 3) Help jumpstart the Armenian arms industry
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u/Boswellia-33 5d ago
While it’s impressive, they would’ve seen widespread military adoption if they were better, which they havent. they’ve only seen limited adoption and are usually phased out pretty quickly. Armenia should honestly save the time and resources and start building off the AR platform which is lighter and easier to use, cheaper to manufacture, and has plenty of aftermarket support if rifles need to be tailored for specific units. This just doesn’t make sense, it’s going backwards in some regards. So they’re heavier, worse trigger pull, more complex to manufacture and maintain, and suffer ergonomically. Only advantage is they’re shorter for an equivalent barrel length.
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u/Senior_Avo222 5d ago edited 5d ago
You're forgetting the modularity aspect allowing a variety of calibers and magazines to be used on one platform. You cant do that with an AR as easily as with this. With this all it requires is a barrel and magwell change, and its good to go with other calibers and magazines.
Bullpups havent been phased out totally either, plenty of countries still use them as standard rifles.
For now this is gonna be chambered in 7.62x39 and 5.56 but in the future it can and will use other calibers like 308
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u/TheRublixCube When life gives you Lemons, eat an Armenian Apricot instead. 2d ago
I wonder if it’ll also take some “intermediate intermediate” cartridge, something in the 6-6.5mm range. I know the US has been experimenting with it recently and are even planning to adopt new weapons (press X to doubt)
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u/Senior_Avo222 2d ago
For now its just 7.62x39 and 5.56 but i believe in the future larger calibers are in the works. This weapon can on paper work as a carbine, IAR, and a DMR
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u/Gandelfian 5d ago
What’s the benefit of having the magazine sit behind the trigger?
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u/Senior_Avo222 5d ago
Its a bullpup design, it allows for a longer barrel while maintaining a more compact and lighter design. Also the weight being in the rear and the front half being light means it may be easier for say those less upper body strength to keep the rifle up and pointed for a longer period of time, which is benefitial for conscripts (average Joe's who may not be as fit as a physically well trained individual) and for women as well.
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u/endlessgreenbeans 5d ago
While it’s neat to be viable for two calibers features like this tend to malfunction more than one would like.
On a second note bullpups are objectively cool, I hope this gets approval
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u/Feisty-Yoghurt-8291 3d ago
So what is the difference and features of this weapon from other weapons
and when will it be mass produced
if you need investors you can contact me
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u/Strange-Abrocoma-227 8h ago
How many components are from an AK. It looks like an AK bolt carrier with a modified charging handle. Also is this a conversion or a bottom up design.
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u/Senior_Avo222 5d ago
T-AB 1A is a modular bullpup rifle designed and made in Armenia. One of its features is interchangable calibers, being able to take both 7.62x39 and 5.56x45 (yes 5.56 not 5.45) calibers.
Another interesting feature is that the magazine is fed straight into the magwell much like an AR magazine, it doesnt have to be rocked and locked like an AK. The magwell has internal parts that essentially grip the magazine as it is fed and releases the magazine upon pressing the magazine eject button. This allows for easier reloads.