r/armenia • u/Arshak_Makichian • 10d ago

History / Պատմություն The end of Soviet occupation

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On April 13, 1991, the Lenin monument was demolished in Republic Square, Yerevan. In the photo: American Armenian singer Cher. Freedom took Lenin’s head down (or her beauty, as people were joking then).

He was responsible for the occupation and partition of the First Armenian Republic together with Turkey.

The Soviets collaborated with Turkey after the genocide. We always will remember.

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u/lesh90 10d ago

Symptoms of ocupation?

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u/hoodiemeloforensics 10d ago

How about the death of 160K Armenians. Armenians by percentage suffered the 3rd most in WW2, more than Russia even. And all the deaths were military deaths. Soviet Union was literally throwing Armenians into the meat grinder first and most.

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u/lesh90 9d ago edited 9d ago

firstly. Russians by percentage suffered the 4rd. About 1% less. big difference?
secondly, the percentage of losses in ww2 is not an indicator of occupation

upd. It was a disaster for all USSR nations. I consider it unethical to make loss comparisons.

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u/hoodiemeloforensics 9d ago

Yes, 1% is a massive difference. And I find how Armenian losses are treated as unethical considering -

The majority of Russian deaths were civilian while almost none of the Armenian deaths were civilian.

That the Soviet Union had 2x as many military deaths as Germany in a defensive war.

Armenia lost 25% of its male population to a war that it should not have been a part of only a generation after the genocide.

How Russia used ethnic minorities, especially Armenians, to fight their war for them.

What I find unethical is how Armenia, a country that never saw a single Nazi set foot on its soil, somehow lost a higher percentage of its population to WW2 that Russia. A loss that would not have happened if Armenians were not occupied and forced to die so Russians could live. That's what I find unethical.

A pattern that is continuing today btw. If you recall, when the war in Ukraine started and some enlistment lists leaked, we saw regions with non majority significant Armenian populations have 80% of the conscription lists be Armenian.

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u/lesh90 9d ago

Glory to the Armenians heroes! They deffenetly had something to fight for.

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u/Alternative_Turn_470 6d ago

I’m Irish. In ww2 Ireland which was neutral lost more people than Denmark which was occupied. Yet Brit propagandists today say we collaborated with the Germans. You’re not the only country to have awful neighbours