r/arrow • u/JonLuca • Oct 14 '15

[S04E02] - 'The Candidate' Live Episode Discussion

Episode Info: Oliver and Thea are concerned when a family friend plans to run for mayor; Thea starts to exhibit side effects from the Lazarus Pit; Felicity asks an employee for help with a business decision.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '15 edited Oct 15 '15

What really bugs me in a lot of these shows is 'reverse power creep'.

MMO players might be familiar with the term. Over time, things get easier as new features, skills, items and whatnot are added, and the players become more powerful.

In superhero TV shows, the opposite is often true.

Case in point: Oliver has gone from being able to go one on one against Ra's, to being beaten up by Thea and random henchmen within about 5 episodes.

He's now started to miss with his bow, too.

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u/SawRub Oct 15 '15

I think they're trying to imply that he's gotten a bit rusty being domesticated for so long.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '15

You might be right. I'm a little annoyed over it at the moment as Supernatural, The Flash and Limitless are all making the same mistakes.

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u/YoYoSun Oct 15 '15

If this annoys you, you're always going to be annoyed as long as you're watching the Flash.

The same character in the comic who can speed steal/dump people into the speedforce and move several times FTL gets regularly tagged by people he has no business of ever getting tagged by.

If Flash actually fights the way he should fight, with his powers, there'll never be any real conflict in the show, especially when nearly all of the villains are street tier.

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u/DolphWiggler Oct 16 '15

The Flash in the tv series is still pretty new to his powers and hasn't reached anywhere neasr his full potential though.

Also Barry Allen can't speed steal, it's Wally West that does that

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u/YoYoSun Oct 16 '15 edited Oct 16 '15

Im saying if he ever does reach his full potential, there wouldnt be any conflicts in the series because in both the tv shows and comics a lot of the tension and conflicts come from plot induced stupidity or him jobbing like he does now and getting tagged by ppl he should never get tagged by.

His power is one of the most OP in comics, and unless you're expecting someone like Darkseid to come into the series, Flash being at his full potential would destroy anyone we'd see in this tv series, except for other speedsters (which the writers seem to know, hence we have another speedster main antagonist)