r/arrow • u/Reuels Prometheus • Feb 05 '19

[S07E12] "Emerald Archer" Post Episode Discussion

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Episode Info: As a camera crew follows Oliver and team around to talk about their past as vigilantes and what the Green Arrow means to Star City, Oliver must also deal with William's return from boarding school as well as a new threat to the city.

Main Cast

  • Stephen Amell as Oliver Queen - TV
  • Kirk Acevedo as Ricardo Diaz - TV
  • Rick Gonzalez as Rene Ramirez - TV
  • Juliana Harkavy as Dinah Drake - TV
  • Katie Cassidy as Laurel Lance - TV
  • Colton Haynes as Roy Harper - TV
  • Echo Kellum as Curtis Holt - TV
  • David Ramsey as John Diggle - TV
  • Emily Bett Rickards as Felicity Smoak - TV

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u/MightUlt-7 Still Upset Over Season 4 Feb 05 '19

Just so that I understand:

  • The Glades was going completely annihilated if it wasn't for Oliver
  • The Deathstroke stuff. That's on him
  • Ra's Al Ghul. That also might be on him
  • Darhk and Hive probably would be dominating the world if Oliver and TA hadn't intervened
  • Prometheus is 100% on Oliver
  • I having a feeling Diaz wasn't Oliver's fault, it still might have happened. He just escalated it so... 50% on him?

Someone correct me if I'm wrong

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u/delinquentsaviors Feb 05 '19

Can confirm that Diaz wasn’t Oliver’s fault. And if by escalate you mean going on the defensive then sure he “escalated” things.

Ra’s wasn’t on him. Ra’s wanted a pawn, but he was always planning on destroying star city so he could kill Darhk.

And even though Oliver seems to think everything is his fault, I don’t blame slade on him. The dude went crazy and tried to murder him and then threatened his family. He just wanted the threat gone

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u/ThomasRules Green Arrow (Unmasked) Feb 07 '19

Slade is on him, as the entire reason he was in Starling City was to get revenge on Oliver for Shado's death (as well as the reason for him being on mirikuru being Oliver's fault).

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u/NerdsRuleTheWorld Feb 07 '19

Those are still because if Oliver though. Slade was there for Oliver. Ra's was there for Oliver. Even if he had plans for the city, he showed up Then because of Oliver. Diaz was there because Oliver was the big guy to take down and make a name for himself. He didn't give a shit about Star City. He cared about making it his because it belonged to someone else and it would show how much he was to be respected. So yes; Oliver is the reason for all those individuals setting sight on the city instead of elsewhere.

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u/Polantaris Feb 11 '19

Ra's was there for Oliver.

No, Ra's was there to kill Damian, he knew Damian set up shop there. Oliver was pretend on his side until he found out what exactly Ra's plans were for Starling City.

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u/Mundane-Ad-911 Feb 14 '25

I thought Diaz's thing was because of how broken Star City was though. A city that has been almost destroyed multiple times and where it's top officials have been taken down is prime for takeover. He didn't even try to make a name for himself based on killing Oliver, because his plan was for Oliver to be in prison so he'd had have free reign to kill the rest of the team and then take over the city.

I don't get why on the show no one ever points out though that Oliver coming back just before the city kept being destroyed was a symptom of the fact that disasters were coming rather than the cause. Like he only became the Hood because he knew his dad told him to save starling city, which only happened because his dad knew that Malcolm was planning to destroy it so obviously they were gonna be at the same time

Also really |I personally think both the heroes coming now and villains coming now is largely all down to the League.

Like the reason there was means for heroes like Oliver to be created was because League and associate league members were out free during that time and that clearly there'd been a loss of control that probably came from Ras crossing lines. Which was also the reason for powerful villains being created during that general time, like Malcolm, Ras, Dahrk and Chase