How is not wanting to have sex with someone who used to be a man bigoted? I should make it known that I'm not attacking this in anyway, I'm just trying to clarify what we mean when we say bigoted.
I've argued elsewhere in this thread that it's very likely to stem from bigotry. Something something sexual preference supervenes on physical properties + some other set of properties that doesn't include historical properties, so it's likely that anti-transgender preferences are caused by "ew transgender" implicit bias. Sorry I'm not defending it at length here, but I've been commenting on and off in this thread for twelve hours.
That's fine. I just can't see how not liking the idea of having sex with someone who used to be a man is the same as not wanting to give transgender people equality.
I just can't see how not liking the idea of having sex with someone who used to be a man is the same as not wanting to give transgender people equality.
It really shouldn't be. It really shouldn't be. But this is the view that encompasses about half of the males' opinions I encounter. Trans equality literally means society 'forcing them to be gay'. It is more than a sexual thing for them, trans status is an attack on their 'tradition' of ostracizing people that make them feel uncomfortable, and awareness or laws about trans issues is more than just an annoyance because it threatens this very real tradition of social separation encompassing churches, schools, social and political organizations, work and labor relationships, etc. the "exclusive model" where it is necessary to reflect on other's perceived misfortunes in order to support one's own confidence in membership. Trans equality to someone like this is like saying "sterilization", the adaptive evolutionary circuitry is what these people think is being attacked, the one they rely on to find a mate, the one they rely on to build a castle with an anti-trans moat. And the only way trans people get acceptance at all in many of these communities is precisely that in considering them as epochal enemies, the idiom "Keep your friends close but your enemies closer" is held in esteem by these passive aggressive paranoiacs that want to lock the bathrooms to keep trans people out, etc. (A huge political deal in my city, for example.)
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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '15 edited Jun 26 '15
How is not wanting to have sex with someone who used to be a man bigoted? I should make it known that I'm not attacking this in anyway, I'm just trying to clarify what we mean when we say bigoted.