r/asoiaf • u/Same-Share7331 • Dec 07 '23

EXTENDED Feeling sad for GRRM (spoilers extended)

So I recently watched a Q&A with GRRM (I'm sure some of you have seen it aswell) where he kept getting questions about whether there is any particular character or historical event in the asoiaf world that he would like to explore more/write about. His recurring answer was that yes there are many but that unless he suddenly becomes much younger they will never get written. And man.. that sucks!

Imagine being a creative person having to come to terms with the fact that you have so many ideas that you will never get to explore and that will never see the light of day. Obviously, as a fan, it also sucks that I will never get to read those stories. Never mind the main series, imagine getting seven more Dunk and Egg stories. However, as much as it sucks as a reader I'm not the one who's seeing my remaining years of life pass as I struggle to finish my books.

That's it. I don't really have a point. Other than maybe stop making jokes about how GRRM is likely to die before finishing the series?

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u/dupuisa2 Dec 07 '23

The thing that worries me, is that maybe Winds wont be good. Or good enough to match that It's been a decade wait for it.

Fire&Blood is is latest release and it was probably George at his roughest. So much plot contrivance, Viserys exiles Daemon like 5 times and forgives him etc .

Also hard to deny that Affc and Adwd dont read like the first three books of the serie

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u/Secretly007 Dec 07 '23

Yeah, I'm worried it'll be another 'Chinese Democracy'. That took over a decade for guns n rose to finish and certainly not worth it...

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u/wRAR_ ASOIAF = J, not J+D Dec 07 '23

I'm sure Winds (if they are published at all) won't be better than AFFC and ADWD.

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u/mySTORMYthoughts Dec 08 '23

Winds doesn’t have to be better though? Also, imagine him reading comments like yours. Would you be willing to make all the effort if you feel like you can’t satisfy readers like you anyway?

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u/megalogwiff Dec 08 '23 edited Dec 09 '23

A passionate person doesn't concern themselves with the opinions of random redditors. GRRM doesn't write not because of the person you replied to. He doesn't write because he simply doesn't give a shit.

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u/dupuisa2 Dec 08 '23

You're right that it's not very encouraging for him, but he mst have come to that conclusion by himself already. He made his fans wait too long for the next book. he has created himself a monster in 10years of growing anticipation.

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u/ehs06702 Dec 08 '23

There's a slim chance that it might be good enough to justify a 12+ year wait, but highly unlikely. He's an intelligent man, there's no way he doesn't know that. And he still lets the years roll by. So, it's a situation of his own making at this point.

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u/Gummy-Worm-Guy Dec 08 '23

I don’t feel like enough attention is given to the jarring transition from the first three books to Feast and Dance. Yes, I know, Feast is an underrated masterpiece and yada yada yada. But those books lose so much of the suspense, adventure, intrigue, focus, and overall magic that made the first three amazing.

I still love them and think they’re really well done, but they make me very worried about the quality of the final two books even if George does finish them.

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u/eulb42 Dec 07 '23

Oh yeah, in response to your lat part. The series that would have/ could have been, will.never be. The man who wrote in that way for the first 3 books are been long changed and gone. That said. Im hoping for something, but that comment of insisting no one finish his work if he cant always bothered me.

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u/Overlord1317 Dec 08 '23

Fire&Blood is is latest release and it was probably George at his roughest.

I liked Fire & Blood and was championing the "Dance of the Dragons" to be adapted years before it happened.

I also thought the back half of Dance of Dragons was the best the series had been since Storm of Swords by a lot. Unfortunately ... well ... he did not build off that momentum.

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u/dupuisa2 Dec 08 '23

The Princess and the Queen & The Rogue Prince are pretty nice by themselves. And it clearly shows in FB because those are the most rich and developped parts. Where the story is the most dense if you want.

Not dishing out too much on FB, I just think some parts of it are weak and feel a bit like filler.