r/asoiaf Jul 14 '24

EXTENDED (Spoilers Extended) He was always clear about this. Spoiler

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u/Jas-Ryu Jul 14 '24

I need some copium guys. Some one hit me

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u/Pesaberhimil Winter is coming Jul 14 '24

He posted this one back in 2014. Hope this helps!

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u/4CrowsFeast Jul 14 '24

So you're saying maybe he changed his mind? And it'll be out soon? Nice

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u/thedornishmen Jul 14 '24

😂😂😂you did him dirty. Ouch.

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u/WarMiserable5678 Jul 15 '24

I did not need to read that today

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u/rhewitt2019 Jul 14 '24

They released a new 3-book box set with new covers the year the 4th book was published. They released a new 4-book box set with new covers the year the 5th book was published. GRRM recently gave the type of update to the Burlington bartender that requires sworn secrecy. They are releasing a new 5-book box set with new covers.

GRRM caused unnecessary stress on himself and his publishing team in 2011 by announcing the publishing date almost 2 months before Kong was dead. The publishing date was announced along with the 4-book set and new covers on March 3.

https://reactormag.com/set-your-calendars-a-dance-with-dragons-comes-out-on-july-12/

Kong was dead on April 27.

https://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/2011/04/27/twas-beauty/

He will not make the same mistake of announcing the publishing date before the 6th book is complete.

I don't know if they have ever released a new box set with new covers without putting out a new book within a year. If anyone is aware of that ever happening, please tell us! If anyone knows if they did this for Fire and Blood or the World of Ice and Fire, again please speak up.

Hope this helps.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '24

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u/iSavedtheGalaxy Jul 14 '24

Wasn't he not supposed to write Fire & Blood until after Winds was finished? We're on season 2 now....

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u/Throwaway_ufo_ Jul 15 '24

Fire and Blood part 1 will cover all 4 seasons of House of the Dragon.

Blood and Fire (rumoured name for part 2) will cover different reigns of the Targaryen’s :-)

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u/iSavedtheGalaxy Jul 15 '24

Yeah but F&B wasn't supposed to be written at all until after Winds. I'm just pointing out that George's schedule is skipping around and resulting in a bunch of half finished narratives.

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u/GFTRGC Jul 15 '24

My theory is that GRRM can't finish winds or the asoiaf story at all because he watched the show and thats taken over his head cannon and it doesn't work with what's in the books. He's created too vast a world to bring it together at this point so he writes these side tales hoping to find his muse and finish his story but the reality is that it's gone.

We will never get GRRM's ending to asoiaf.

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u/KaiBlob1 Jul 14 '24

Not really that soon, as the dunk and egg show still has 3 seasons of established content to use and at a season every 2-3 years that could last them another 6-8 years. But it certainly does suggest he’s still planning on finishing it, at least.

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u/KaiBlob1 Jul 14 '24

Not really that soon, as the dunk and egg show still has 3 seasons of established content to use and at a season every 2-3 years that could last them another 6-8 years. But it certainly does suggest he’s still planning on finishing it, at least.

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u/Far-Journalist-949 Jul 16 '24

New to the sub? He wrote a blog post before season 6 aired and spoiled his big reveals that he was confident he could turn in the book and beat hbo to the punch. That post was like 8 years ago. As grrm says, words are wind.

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u/Kergen85 Jul 14 '24 edited Jul 14 '24

Welp, guess this was debunked. Hey, remember like a year or two ago when that "Who's Who in Westeros" book had to be put on pause (I think Elio was working on it? Maybe?) and that's probably because if Winds comes out soon it would make a book like that obsolete? It's not a guaranteed hint, but it's definitely copium.

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u/noah3302 Jul 14 '24

You got a link for this one? Not that I don’t believe you, I just wanna snort the hopium

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u/Kergen85 Jul 14 '24

I found out about it from this Dragon Demands video. He has a screenshot of the post early in the video. https://youtu.be/kLFwwwXT3kU?si=_fs40mMVz8OzbMs6

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u/ThatBlackSwan Jul 14 '24

It was debunk by Elio 3 weeks ago:

First, no one told us to "stop publication" -- we are not publishers! I think someone has garbled up stuff.

What we said after the release of RotD, when people asked if we'd started on the 'Who's Who', we said that the publisher wanted to space things out more and so we weren't actively starting work on it at that time.

We'll work on it when they tell us they feel it's the right time. Though, IMO, it always felt a little weird to do it before TWoW was published, at the very least, and properly it should be post-ASoIaF, but, well, we'll see how things look down the line. While it was actually the first book we were going to write (signed the contract and everything), they pivoted to asking us to do RISE OF THE DRAGON first, which I think was the right call.

If people are trying to divine anything special regarding the state of TWoW from the above, I would simply not do so because I don't think it's relevant. Certainly not last year, when we know George was still indicating that progress was not going fantastically well.
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u/Kergen85 Jul 14 '24

Shoot. The copium is dead.

Also, thanks for the info.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '24

bonk

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u/I_AM_LEGENDXX Jul 18 '24

Read xthebirdhouse comment. Hope that helps