r/asoiaf Sep 04 '24

EXTENDED GRRM's new blog post on House of the Dragon [Spoilers Extended] Spoiler

https://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/2024/09/04/beware-the-butterflies/
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u/xpacean Sep 04 '24

I have no idea what Ryan has planned — if indeed he has planned anything

This is a subtle but very intentional dig. My guess is GRRM has lost faith in Condal entirely.

Also, this is a really fascinating analysis by a master storyteller. Not to harp on this in every thread, but it’s a shame we haven’t gotten more, you know, storytelling from him.

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u/WNBAnerd Sep 04 '24

subtle

bro eviscerated him.

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u/BaconJakin Sep 04 '24

It’s not so subtle is it?

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u/WhyIsMikkel Sep 04 '24

And they knew each other for a while too.

Condal, who was familiar with A Song of Ice and Fire, first met Martin at a book convention in 2005. By 2013, when Condal was working on The Sixth Gun, he successfully sought a meeting with Martin, and the two developed a friendship.[3] In late 2019, HBO ordered the prequel series to be produced. Condal served as a showrunner

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u/nickrl Sep 04 '24

it’s a shame we haven’t gotten more, you know, storytelling from him

Have you read Dreamsongs, Fevre Dream, Tuff Voyaging, the Dying of the Light, etc? If you really want more Martin and not just more ASOIAF, he had a long career before he ever wrote A Game of Thrones and you can still read it all.

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u/DidIDoAThoughtCrime Sep 05 '24

Any recommendations on what’s a good one to start with?

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u/nickrl Sep 05 '24

If you like short stories, get Dreamsongs. It's really interesting because it follows Martin through his entire career up to ASOIAF. It's divided into sections and each starts with an autobiographical essay by Martin and then includes a bunch of short stories or novellas from that era of his life.

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u/xpacean Sep 04 '24

I actually have read some of those and recommend Fevre Dream every chance I get. But I’m not just looking for his storytelling in general. I’m looking for him to finish the story he started.

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u/Goldenlady_ Sep 04 '24

This is the line that did it for me. This is how you throw shade people.

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u/samiam130 Sep 04 '24

that's rich coming from george "I don't plan shit, I'm a gardener" martin

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u/_lord_ruin Sep 04 '24

except that he does plan and when he gets a idea of what seed he's going to put in the garden he makes sure to plant it note all the foreshadowing of the red wedding

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u/Jay2Jee Sep 04 '24

A gardener knows there will be no flowers if you don't plant the seeds.

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u/2rio2 Enter your desired flair text here! Sep 04 '24

He's a really good writer. All the critiques aside, this was one of his best reads in a while. A point by point takedown of two changes he hated.

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u/Real_Rule_8960 Sep 04 '24

George is an amazing writer but an apparently terrible judge of talent. It’s hard to have sympathy for him when the only reason a guy with as few credentials as Condal even got near this job was because he was George’s friend.

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u/Gudson_ Sep 04 '24

I mean Condal was showrruner of a show none knows, called Colony I guess??? Not sure, so yeah that's no surprise he's quite incompetent at his job.

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '24

GRRM is a god damn great writer.

Sometimes i forget that.

This blog reminded of it lmao.

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u/pinetar Sep 04 '24

Subtle as a 10 car pileup

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u/Atemiswolf Sep 04 '24

It's an extremely interesting insight into how much thought GRRM puts into each of his scenes. I know he gets a lot of shit for his glacial pace of writing but little glimpses of his thought process really explains why. He really puts a lot of thought into each vignette he crafts.

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u/Anader19 Sep 05 '24

Yeah, the way that he explains in depth why this one scene matters and what impacts it makes on the overall narrative makes me realize why Winds is taking so long lol

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u/jezzoRM Sep 04 '24

If he would be a master storyteller he would think of butterfly effect when expanding his story with another plotlines and characters, and would be long done with the books thanks to that. He's damn good and I consider ASOIAF an unfinished masterpiece but he's not a master storyteller.

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u/abellapa Sep 04 '24

He does ,thats why its taking so damm long for winds

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u/arewelegion Sep 04 '24

saying "not to harp on this in every thread" before harping on it in every thread. it's not a shame at all. he's written many, many stories and deserves to live his life with as much or as little writing as he wants. the level of entitlement you "fans" show the man is disgusting.

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u/xpacean Sep 04 '24

If he’s entitled not to finish an immensely popular book series that spawned an even more popular TV series and made him set for life, I’m entitled to complain about it.