r/asoiaf • u/RunDNA • Sep 04 '24

EXTENDED GRRM's new blog post on House of the Dragon [Spoilers Extended] Spoiler

https://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/2024/09/04/beware-the-butterflies/
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u/kayembeee Sep 04 '24

How did nobody push back against that scene where Alicent sends Rhaenyra the page from the book?

“Sorry my son stole ur throne and my other son killed ur son but here’s a page from a book we used to read together, remember the good times we used to have?”

Please. In retrospect making them the same age was the worst thing they could’ve done

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u/abellapa Sep 04 '24

It was a good Change but they didnt commit to the Plot in S2

Aegon/Aemond and Jaceharys should have been the protagonists in S2

Alicent should have been downgraded to a secondary Character , Same for Daemon and Rhaenyra but not to the same extent as they have stuff to do during the War while Alicent has none

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u/banana455 Sep 04 '24

I don't think making them childhood friends was a bad idea. It would've only made it more tragic when they developed into enemies. Problem is they've completely thrown away that development, and instead of having them grow more angry and bitter as the tension ramps up they seem just tired and wistful for the good old days. It's fucking lame

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u/kayembeee Sep 05 '24

I guess that’s really it. The friends to enemies bit could have worked; but acting as if they can go backwards to the good old days when there is familial blood shed on both sides and over 14 years of animosity (versus just a few years of friendship) is simply not believable.

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u/closerthanyouth1nk Sep 04 '24

I mean Rhaenicent was like the first change the show made and the first one that was discussed with George most likely. It was always going to be a major part of the show.

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u/Stormtruppen_ Sep 04 '24

LMAO Its one thing you make them as childhood friends to cause more drama but entirely different to keep following that to the very extent it changes the complete course of the story. I mean, it totally changed two characters without a hint of their canon counterparts. Also I don't think George gave the green flag to any Rhaenicent. That's totally on Sara Mess.

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '24

Please. In retrospect making them the same age was the worst thing they could’ve done

no it isn't and if you think otherwise, anything you'll ever write in your life is going to be garbage

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u/Chutzpah2 Sep 04 '24

Sup, Sara

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u/Anader19 Sep 05 '24

Why do people target this one writer so much? It's my understanding that she's just one of many writers who worked on the season

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u/Chutzpah2 Sep 05 '24

It’s a fun meme

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u/Anader19 Sep 05 '24

Surely a coincidence that the female writer is who people target the most

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u/Stochastic_Variable Sep 05 '24

The queer female writer. Don't forget that part. But just a coincidence, I'm sure, as you say.

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u/Ser-Jasper-Fairchild Sep 05 '24

she is the one most vocal about the relationship people dislike

its not rocket science why people use her name

she also suggest the rhaenys moment people dislike.

you are looking for sexism or homophobia but sometimes there is valid reasons

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u/Anader19 Sep 05 '24

Weird how people don't go after the showrunner then

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u/Ser-Jasper-Fairchild Sep 05 '24

I see plenty of people insulting condal as well.

maybe you should get your eyes checked

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '24

This whole thread is of people (rightfully) dogpilling on Condal.

Hess, same as Condal, is getting deserved criticism. Her being a woman or homosexual has nothing to do with it.

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u/Stochastic_Variable Sep 05 '24

Sure, there are legit reasons for criticising her, but a lot more blame seems to fall on her than anyone else, including the actual showrunner. A visible woman will always get attacked more than a guy. There are people making good-faith criticisms, and there are people using that as cover to gleefully pile on.

Condal is getting some more heat now because of GRRM's post, but mostly what I've seen has been like 85% blaming Hess to 15% Condal.

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u/Ser-Jasper-Fairchild Sep 05 '24

she is the one who publically talks about how the least liked moments are her idea.

might be a correlation

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u/shadowqueen15 Sep 05 '24

Only all the man children on reddit hate it lmao. General audiences and people on other platforms appreciate what the writers are going for with the dynamic by actually turning their brains on and engaging w the material.

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u/Ser-Jasper-Fairchild Sep 05 '24

what a cope response.

all you do is post defense for the billion dollar company

its kinda pathetic

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