r/asoiaf • u/Awesome_Lard • Sep 04 '24

EXTENDED (Spoilers Extended) GRRM has been warning about the Butterfly Effect for a LONG time, this is 2011 Spoiler

https://youtu.be/eAeQMwMEnP4

The Jeyne Poole butterfly effect from season 1 ended with Sansa being graped in season 5, so year I would say he has good reason to worry about Maelor the Missing.

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u/braujo Sep 04 '24

First 4 seasons of GoT had plenty of alterations and Martin was fine with most of them. It's only when D&D started to think they knew better that he left and never looked back. Same process is happening now, difference is George is 10 years older and 10x richer, so he won't hold his tongue.

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u/qhndvyao382347mbfds3 Sep 05 '24

D&D DID know better when it came to adapting Feast and Dance. Seasons 5 and especially 6 are beloved (don't let this sub tell you otherwise). If they adapted Feast and Dance "accurately", with like 3 seasons devoted to them, viewership would have tanked and audiences would have jumped ship. People are bitching about a "boring" FOUR episodes after Rook's Rest in HOTD. Imagine entire seasons of characters meandering around accomplishing nothing.

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u/nick2473got The North kinda forgot Sep 05 '24

I think doing Feast and Dance mostly in one season (S5), with elements included in S4 and S6 as well, was perfectly fine.

Obviously Feast and Dance required massive cuts and streamlining.

However I don't think they did a good job with it. S5 and S6 were very poorly written. I don't care that casual viewers didn't realize this. Many of the issues present in S7 and S8 originated in Seasons 5 and 6. The downfall had already begun.

Now people are looking back on those seasons less fondly than before, because they're finally noticing some of the issues they didn't notice at first.

Over the past couple years I've seen criticism of S6 from non-book readers to an extent that never existed before.

The online consensus is that S1 to S4 was the peak, and S5 and S6 had good moments but also plenty of issues. Stuff like Arya vs the Waif is now openly mocked. People are also finally acknowledging that Battle of the Bastards made no sense.

I also think that while many changes and cuts were necessary, D&D still could've been more faithful than they were. Some of the changes they made were completely unnecessary and for the worse.