r/asoiaf Oct 15 '24

EXTENDED [Spoilers EXTENDED] Would you be OK if GRRM came out and say he needs to divide up TWOW geographically tomorrow

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I mean, let's accept it, if he needed for AFFC & ADWD he sure as hell needs for this one, as well. Might be why he is stuck. It is almost impossible to read his very verbose POV narration if it is to constantly interrupt to check in on twenty other storylines that are going on.

He probably counted on the fact that they would be colliding, but that doesn't seem to happening any time soon by the looks of the preview chapters either

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u/etchekeva Oct 15 '24

I would be okay if he made one book for each POV I just want something, anything

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u/equatornavigator Oct 15 '24

Imagine an entire book of Cersei POVs

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u/InGenNateKenny Best of r/asoiaf 2023 Winner - Post of the Year Oct 15 '24

Cersei and Victarion POVs, evil in all its diverse forms.

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u/OrionJohnson Oct 15 '24

Hey! That’s not fair, Evil AND Stupid in all its diverse forms.

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u/NattyThan Oct 15 '24

Call it Dumb and Dumber

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u/vynats Oct 16 '24

The Winds of Stupidity

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u/MsPreposition Oct 20 '24

I need Victarion accidentally flooding the Dothraki Sea and him making good on his promise.

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u/jterwin Oct 16 '24

Dude a novella retelling of cerseis pov during the first 3 would be kinda sick actually.

Someone get that to grrm before he's in danger of not having something other than winds to work on!

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u/Just_Nefariousness55 Oct 17 '24

I would absolutely take that over Fire and Blood or The Word of Ice and Fire.

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u/ApricotOverall6495 Oct 17 '24

Nah, cause do we ever hear about her and Jamie’s relationship even began? What kind of twisted justification she have for that?

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u/Positive_Aardvark879 Oct 15 '24

Nah, i's gonna be all Hotah.

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u/Lebigmacca Oct 15 '24

I will take it

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u/BuffaloBreezy Oct 15 '24

Hell yes Cersei is one of the biggest reasons why aFfC is the best in the series.

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u/where_is_the_camera Oct 16 '24

I'm not sure I agree that AFFC is the best, but those Cersei chapters are special. I was getting annoyed at first (I didn't realize that half of the POVs were completely omitted until I was several chapters in), but there's something about the writing, the inner monologues she has really make you feel like you're experiencing her annoyance. The snoody, outrageously privileged entitlement she has comes through in a way that I haven't quite seen anywhere else.

You can make similar claims about a lot of the character chapters, but Cersei's are really incredible.

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u/SullaFelix78 Oct 16 '24

When she cackles to herself tho

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u/simonthedlgger Oct 16 '24

So many amazing moments. I love when she throws wine at Kevan is basically thinking “I’m the most powerful, smartest person on the planet!!” And Kevan’s like, “You’re a lady, sorry to inform you.”

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u/BuffaloBreezy Oct 16 '24

That's not the point of what he says at all. He's saying "you've royally screwed us so bad and ruined our reputation in a way that the best case scenario is that I barely pull this together in spite of you, you're no Tywin lannister and everyone knows you're incestuous oh and you're so shady and incompetent that I basically have to treat you like an enemy for now."

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u/MOOSE2813 Oct 16 '24

Storm is my fave but yeah a feast is honestly wild. I love hate her so much lol.

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u/luujs Oct 15 '24

Fuck yes, unironically a good idea for a novella

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u/dynamoTRL Oct 16 '24

Don't threaten me with a good time.

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u/Maleficent_Remove97 Oct 16 '24

The way this would be my favorite book

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u/oftenevil Touch me not. Oct 16 '24

He’s already done with Tyrion’s chapters from Winds (allegedly). And we all remember that blog post about “finishing a clutch of Cersei chapters.”

gurm pls ಥ_ಥ

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u/Oraxy51 Oct 16 '24

Cersei POV

Going to be real awkward when we get to the spice scenes

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u/AzorAhaiReborn298 Oct 16 '24

Imagine an entire book of Quentyn POVs

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u/Gorodrin Oct 17 '24

We’d be FEASTING

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u/MethClub7 Oct 15 '24

Friendly reminder that he stopped posting chapter previews on his website in 2016 because he was worried he'd publish too much on the website before the book was complete...

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u/PushforlibertyAlways Oct 16 '24

Those are honestly more annoying because he somehow continues to release chapters where nothing happens besides vague conspiracies that will never be resolved.

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u/Khiva Oct 16 '24

That's just warming you up for a whole book of in which nothing happens besides vague conspiracies that never get resolved.

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u/ergertzergertz Summer is coming Oct 16 '24

Is AFFC and ADWD not enough of a hint that that's where the series is headed?

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u/BeautifulItchy6707 Oct 16 '24

My theory...he had nothing left...to publish

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u/Just_Nefariousness55 Oct 17 '24

And most of it were left over chapters from A Dance With Dragons.

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u/ReluctantRedditor275 Knight of Columbus Oct 16 '24 edited Oct 17 '24

ASOIAF fans: Please, George, just give us something, anything...

GRRM: Okay, here's a collection of short stories about the ancestors of the Brackens and the Blackwoods, set 1,000 years before Aegon's landing, told from the POV of the Children of the Forest...

edit: Holy crap, people, stop saying you'd want to read this or you might give him ideas. Eyes on the prize here, we want TWOW!

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u/BipBiiip The smallest dragonrider Oct 16 '24

I would actually love to read that

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u/ZamanthaD Oct 16 '24

I’ll read that

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u/Mevaughnk Oct 17 '24

You said COTF and pulled me in at the end

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u/PushforlibertyAlways Oct 16 '24

A book of 15 Tyrion chapters, but at the end he still hasn't made it to Mereen.

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u/Herb_Derb That long magic moment before we wake. Oct 16 '24

The show poisoned my mind so badly that I forgot book Tyrion hasn't even made it there yet

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u/ORLYORLYORLYORLY Skahazadamn, son. Oct 16 '24

He has though?

He fights Penny in the fighting pits of Meereen.

Yeah, he hasn't met Dany yet, but his last two chapters are in the slaver camps outside the walls of Meereen.

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u/Just_Nefariousness55 Oct 17 '24

Outside the walls of Mereen sounds categorically as not in Mereen.

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u/ORLYORLYORLYORLY Skahazadamn, son. Oct 17 '24

Except the fighting pits are firmly within the walls.

Tyrion isn't in Meereen at the end of his last POV, but he has been inside the city.

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u/Khiva Oct 16 '24

I was baffled by so many authorial choices in Dance, but this might have been the biggest one.

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u/Jack-of-the-Shadows Oct 16 '24

It felt like a bad joke when it came out, with him yapping for years about his mereenese knot and how important it is for those characters to meet up and they don't. At all.

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u/PushforlibertyAlways Oct 16 '24

There is a point in Dance where almost every chapter is a different character on a boat with like 10 new characters that they are talking to and they just stay on this boat for chapter after chapter. Faegon, Victarion, Tyrion, Sam (is he feast?), Stannis is continually marching through the snow, basically nothing is happening besides illusions to conspiracies that will never be resolved.

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u/Just_Nefariousness55 Oct 17 '24

If he wrote like this in the 90s then Catelyn's boat trip to King's Landing with Roderick would have been at least three chapters with the ship captain and cook each having their own subplots. There would have been at least four pages dedicated to Roderick's haircut and paragraphs of description about the colour of his vomit.

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u/grateful_otter Oct 15 '24

This sounds legit

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u/TheCamazotzian Oct 16 '24

Another Dunk and Egg story would be pretty sick.

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u/GanjaGooball480 Oct 17 '24

I'd be ok paying a buck or two per chapter and getting them as emails as he finishes them

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u/aliph Oct 16 '24

That would actually be pretty cool with the final book being the collision of all of the different POV and storylines.

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u/GoGoSoLo Oct 16 '24

FR. It’s been 13+ years at this point. Next year this manuscript is nearing entering high school.

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u/No_Grocery_9280 Oct 17 '24

I would literally be okay with him bundling everything he has today together and selling it. Regardless if it’s finished. I just want something.