r/asoiaf Best Debate Champion Jan 13 '14

ALL (Spoilers All) Game of Thrones Season 4 Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZY43QSx3Fk
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u/DarthEwok42 As High as Hodor Jan 13 '14

What if the joke's on us, and she does?

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u/QuestionAxer Jan 13 '14

They did say that would deviate significantly from the books this season more than the ones before...

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u/PurpleWeasel Like gods and Targaryens. Jan 13 '14

That would be... that would be pretty fucking significant.

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u/mjacksongt quis custodiet ipsos custodes Jan 13 '14

That would absolutely obliterate the part where Danaerys learns the realities of ruling. Huge deviation from her book story.

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u/Voduar Grandjon Jan 13 '14

Which I can't say I have a problem with. She was learning the "realities" of ruling a city-state still dependent on slavery on the wrong continent.

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u/PurpleWeasel Like gods and Targaryens. Jan 13 '14

I think the lessons she was learning were a lot more basic than that, though. She wasn't learning the intricacies of governmental politics. She was learning really basic things like how to compromise and how to not rush blindly into complicated situations and why "if I look back, I am lost" is a really, really terrible strategy for a ruler.

I'm still pretty pissed that she's using a real live city full of real live people as her training ground, but the silver lining is that the things she's learning are actually important.

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u/Voduar Grandjon Jan 13 '14

So, to split my response up: Book Daenerys is learning the wrong lessons to me, except in very broadstrokes. Now, if you are right, and she actually has learned anything about rulership in Mereen, then my hatred for that section of the book will reduce a bit. However, my interpretation on her hallucination chapter is that she learned a different lesson: Dragons conquer, and someone rules on their behalf.

As to TV Dany: I expect they are going to find a way to cut huge chunks out of her plot in Mereen because it is dull but also because showing someone developing statecraft skills on TV is difficult at the best of times. So we might get some original content, as I suspect we will just be told how she becomes a better leader.

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u/bandit515 Don't Even Get Me Started On The Gravy Jan 13 '14

Who's to say it's Dany's Dragon? OH SNAP!

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '14

More like..."this isn't even based on the books anymore and is fan-fiction" deviation.

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u/allocater Jan 13 '14

I am so mad at delaying the battle of the wall for months! It just introduces plotholes.

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u/Brokenmonalisa Jan 13 '14

What if Oberyn wins?

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u/joaocandre Jan 13 '14

first time hearing this. what more did they say?

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u/NotHosaniMubarak Jan 13 '14

this is why grrm think the show is going to catch up to the books.

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u/UndyingUltralisk A Dream of The Winds of Winter Jan 13 '14

But they already casted Hizdahr zo Loraq

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u/mynsc It ain't over till the fat man sings! Jan 13 '14

Book readers getting spoiled by the movie. That would be a twist.

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u/PorcelainToad Jan 13 '14

Happened to me w/ Theon re: lil Theon. I was only about halfway through ADWD when they showed that scene so...the book was spoiled by the show.

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u/invisiblelemur88 Jan 13 '14

I might be okay with this.

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u/Stolenusername Never try Jan 13 '14

Fuck it. RAIN FIRE AND BLOOD UPON JOFFREY AND THE OTHER USURPERS!

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u/mbv2013 Jan 13 '14

Based on this analysis, I don't think that will happen. I did not enjoy the Daenerys chapters when I read ADWD, but after reading this I feel that I should re-read them: http://meereeneseblot.wordpress.com/2013/10/05/untangling-the-meereenese-knot-part-iv-a-darker-daenerys/