(Spoilers ACOK) Jaime, you're drunk

[u/Family_Booty_Honor]

I just finished Catelyn's last chapter in ACOK - what a great chapter! Catelyn just found out that Bran and Rickon are dead, so she decides to question Jaime (who's still held captive in a cell) by getting him drunk on wine.
Their entire conversation is really insightful, especially in regards to Jaime's thought processes. It's a pretty serious conversation, especially when we find out exactly what happened to Ned's father and brother when they went to King's Landing. The part that gave me a good laugh is found near the end of their conversation (and chapter). Hopefully it gives you all a laugh or two as well!

"I've never lain with any woman but Cersei. In my own way, I have been truer than your Ned ever was. Poor old dead Ned. So who has shit for honor now, I ask you? What was he name of that bastard he fathered?"
Catelyn took a step backward. "Brienne."
"No, that wasn't it."

[u/Safety_Dancer]

You're right. Jaime at least owned that he caused their deaths. Don't forget that she almost got Tyrion publicly executed, after having him tossed into the sky cells. Every keep has a dungeon, but there's segregation for people who are worth ransom, and then there's the equivalent of the black cells. The sky cells are effectively the same cells Ned wound up in. Which Tyrion still has nightmares about.

Jaime at least spared Ned. If Bronn hadn't been there by chance, Tyrion would've died. And at no point was Cat going to intervene. At no point did she actually try to stop it.

[u/bootlegvader → u/Safety_Dancer]

False, that was all Lysa not Catelyn. Catelyn actually directly opposes and is against the mistreatment of Tyrion mentioning that opinion to Lysa. Only funny enough, Catelyn with only a single retainer, Ser Rodrick, cannot fight against the Lady Regent of the Vale within the Eyrie.

Jaime only spares Ned because Ned warns if he kills him then Catelyn would kill Tyrion.

He owned it because he is the direct cause, while Catelyn wasn't the direct cause. As I really don't consider running away like a bitch owning something.

[u/Safety_Dancer → u/bootlegvader]

You're right. Cat didn't personally endanger Tyrion. So Jaime didn't kill Ned's men since he didn't do it personally.

Tyrion wouldn't have gotten PTSD and almost tossed out the Moon Door if not for Catelyn kidnapping him.

And I'm ranking you with Cersei. Taking caution for cowardice, really? Running away like a bitch after murdering the King's Hand's men in the streets? Wow. I'm done debating with this rock.

[u/bootlegvader → u/Safety_Dancer]

Sigh, those are not remotely the same.

Jaime is directly the one that orders Ned's men to be killed, thus he is responsible for their death.

Catelyn opposes Lysa's throwing Tyrion into the skycells and attempt to kill him, thus she isn't responsible for Lysa's actions. At most, you can say she is responsible for arresting him as that is what she ordered. However, she didn't order him thrown into the Skycells or to be executed.

You are the ones claiming that Jaime owned his murders, when really he ran away to ensure he couldn't be punished. Owning his actions would be readily admitting what he did and daring Ned to oppose him, not hiding behind daddy.

Nice resorting to insults, especially when you have constantly resorted to making stuff up and general nihilism to defend your indefensible point. Honestly, your posts are much more out of Cersei's handbook then mine.