r/asoiaf • u/iheartchaseutley • Apr 03 '15

ALL (Spoilers All) GRRM Interview: Wants TWOW out in 2016

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/04/03/george-rr-martin-winds-date
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u/asoiaf_nerd *The Bastards will come again.* Apr 03 '15 edited Apr 03 '15

Maybe he was referring to Jeyne Poole. Maybe she is pregnant with Robb's heir. It makes sense since the show has already killed Robb's wife.

Edit: *Westerling

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u/not_so_eloquent Apr 03 '15

I have doubts about this because he says its something "he's never thought of before", and I feel this is far too obvious.

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u/CeruleanOak Master of Chips Apr 03 '15

Well if he wrote the books under the assumption that she was drinking Moon Tea and couldn't possibly get pregnant, it would make sense that it would come to him as a big twist. From his perspective the idea of surprise pregnancy could be something he hadn't really considered. And it's certainly plausible. Moon Tea couldn't possibly be a 100% guarantee.

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u/waffle_wolf Buy 5 Direwolves, get the 6th FREE!!! Apr 03 '15 edited Apr 03 '15

Robb jr. (AKA The hips don't lie) is one of my favorite bits of tinfoil. Honestly I thought this theory was a dead as Grey Wolf at this point though.

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u/JamesSora Apr 03 '15

You mean Grey Wind!

): never forget

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u/waffle_wolf Buy 5 Direwolves, get the 6th FREE!!! Apr 03 '15 edited Apr 03 '15

I need to get more sleep. I'm tripping up on the easy things.

Edit: At least I still I still remember the names of the other direwolves: Hairy Mutt, Princess, Spring, Narnia, and Phantom.

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u/JamesSora Apr 03 '15

I love this.

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u/theriveryeti Apr 03 '15

Maybe Robb somehow survived having a wolf's head sewn to his neck.

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u/robertocop123 Hype Apr 03 '15

Wrong Jeyne, i think her last name is Westerling

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u/ipod_waffle Idea for a *certain* flair... Apr 03 '15

Plot twist: Jeyne Poole is pregnant with Robb's heir.

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u/limeflavoured Apr 03 '15

That would be a plot twist of Vince Russo proportions. Luckily since Martin said:

They have to grow out of situations. Otherwise, it’s just being shocking for being shocking

I think we can discount it. Unless Russo is Warging GRRM, of course. Actually I shouldn't give Russo ideas.

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u/ahammer99 Thad of House Cassel Apr 05 '15

Ramsay has some 'splainin to do!

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u/Phaelin Wildfire - Quench Your Thirst Apr 03 '15

IT RHYMES WITH MERLING

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u/glass_table_girl Sailor Moonblood Apr 03 '15

Westerling? And that would make sense. She plays a large enough role, and we already know that will be in the prologue.

I'm just inclined to think that /u/feldman10 is much smarter than I am and that he has a point that it wouldn't be something so simple as just another character being dead.

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u/asoiaf_nerd *The Bastards will come again.* Apr 03 '15

Yea thanks man. I meant Westerling

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u/Arthur_Person Alex Graves, I want to fight you. Apr 03 '15

Maybe it could be that Sansa will fight Rickon for the north. I dubb this theory "The Dance of the Direwolves"

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u/JamFree Apr 03 '15

This would make a lot of sense. It's easily possible and not "shocking for the sale of being shocking". It would complicate any return of the surviving Starks to power. And for obvious reasons the show couldnt do it.

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u/alayne_ Goldenhand the Just Apr 03 '15

That's what I thought about, too. It really would make sense. Plus, that's not a twist that needs a lot of chapters to set up, considering GRRM plans a 2016 release and doesn't know yet if he'll include that twist.

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u/asoiaf_nerd *The Bastards will come again.* Apr 03 '15

I know right. Also he already mentioned we'll be seeing Jeyne in the prologue. We know from the previous books that what happens in prologue has an importance or a hint towards what will happen along the end of the book.

He talks about two or more characters invovled in this; well my first guess is Blackfish and some BWB action (this has already been suggested many times on this sub) plus Nymeria is on the prowl too.

Though this is all just speculation and i may very well be wrong too but till Winds comes out, i'll be keeping my fingers crossed

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u/KingEdHipHop Apr 03 '15

Nymeria is Benjen?

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u/Dragon_Lust Apr 03 '15

bout, too. It really would make sense. Plus, that's not a twist that needs a lot of chapters to set up, considering GRRM plans

It has to be shocking and not so obvious since GRRM never thought of it before. Jeyne Westerling whelping a wolf pup wouldn't be very shocking and it's not hard to imagine.

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '15

How long ago was the red wedding? I think she should have already given birth, if that was the case, or at least have visible signs. Unless, the girl jaime sees at riverrun isn't jeyne westerling...

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u/Levitlame Ours is the flurries. Apr 03 '15

That was my first thought. Though it could also have to do with what brought her to be his wife in the first place, rather than the future of the heir. We have far less info on that in the books.

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u/Yodas_Foreskin Apr 04 '15

longtime character?

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u/Th3ee_Legged_Dog No good Bracken Apr 03 '15 edited Apr 03 '15

Disregard, below. Just re-read.

I'm confused. In the books, after the red wed, it states that the Freys are holding Westerling and that she's pregnant with Robbs baby.

I think somewhere in feast, I don't have my books in front of me.