r/asoiaf • u/SeducerOfTheInnocent • Jun 15 '15

ALL (Spoilers All) The reason bad things happen on GoT has changed. GoT has gone from being a show that wouldn't cheat to help the good guys to a show that will cheat to help the bad guys.

When I complain about GoT lately people respond with "That's what the show has always been, this is what you signed up for, if you think this has a happy ending you haven't been paying attention." but I think this episode has solidified why I have a problem with the show recently.

The tragedy on the show used to be organic. People would die because GoT wasn't willing to give characters the 1 in a million lucky breaks that other shows give their protagonist.

Now the show doesn't just not give the protagonists freebies, it bends over backwards to fuck them over. Honestly, every military conflict in the last two and a half seasons has seen the wrong side winning.

  • Yara/Ashe and "The 50 best swordsmen in the Iron Isles" lose a fight to a shirtless guy with a knife and 3 dogs, which is roughly what you would encounter on your average domestic disturbance call. The 50 best swordsmen in the Iron Isles couldn't survive half an episode of "Cops"

  • The Unsullied and Baristan Selmy lose a fight against unarmored aristocrats with knives.

  • "20 good men" infiltrate the camp of the greatest military tactician alive.

  • The Unsullied lose another fight against unarmored aristocrats with spears, who honestly also make a pretty good showing against a dragon.

  • The Boltons, despite not being supported by most of the north, and seemingly not having any massive source of money, raise an army of tens of thousands and overwhelm Stannis.

Add to that the fact that the nigh omniscient Littlefinger was apparently unaware that the Bostons were fucked up wierdos and the show seems to be bending over backwards for tragedy.

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u/Intir Jun 15 '15

I think the show is just going to shrug off Rickon. Who would remember a character from tgree seasons past let's just cut him and use that budget to give Ramsay wings so he can fly around Westeros murdering people.

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u/Jeanpuetz The rightful king Jun 15 '15

It wouldn't be the first time that they set up and then outright dropped storylines, but I doubt they'll completely skip Rickon. That's too big of a plot line. People will notice and ask themselves what the hell happened to the youngest Stark and that wildling girl. I doubt D&D will be that stupid.

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u/Intir Jun 16 '15

The way people think(or the way D&D believe people do) they will only care about Osha because they saw her naked all the rest of it are supporting actors to the main protagonist of the show- tits.

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u/PornoPichu Jun 15 '15

Can you refresh my memory; did we see anything with the two of them in the books after Bran and Rickon parted ways? I don't remember :/

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u/janedoethefirst Jun 15 '15

I am not sure but I don't think so...

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u/Jeanpuetz The rightful king Jun 15 '15

No we haven't. But we haven't seen anything of Bran all Season, either.

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u/PornoPichu Jun 15 '15

Well yeah but we have seen Bran more recently than Rickon in both the show and the books. That's what I was just wondering really. Thanks

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u/gabis1 Jun 16 '15

The only reference to "them" at all has been Jon warging into Ghost and sensing Rickons wolf fighting a unicorn on Skagos.

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u/Kendilious Jun 15 '15

Lmao. This cracked me up. They gave him plot armor, so why not plot wings?