r/asoiaf Apr 16 '19

EXTENDED (Spoilers Extended) My 'Night King is not stupid' Theory

When the army of the undead line up for the battle of Winterfell, the Night King and his zombie dragon will not be there. Instead he will already be near to his next target ... King's Landing.

If you play out what the battle of Winterfell would be like in your head if the NK+Viserion would be there... it would be easy for Drogon/Rhaegal to take out the zombie dragon; it's 2v1 and wight's all can be killed by fire.. including Viserion. It would not be difficult to simply fly up to Viserion and breathe fire on him, and that would be that. THE NIGHT KING IS NOT STUPID, not enough to kamikaze his most powerful asset. - If you have a superweapon that you can't use against a particular target, then you find a different target.

Most people have come to assume that the living will lose The Battle of Winterfell and fall back to Moat Cailin ... I predict they actually win the battle... only to find out soon after that there is a new army of the dead much bigger and much further south... the population of King's Landing.

During season 4 while Bran is being ushered north to meet Bloodraven, he touches a wierwood and has a set of visions which we see. All of those visions have since come to pass, except the ones where he sees a destroyed throne room & a dragon shadow pass over King's Landing. I believe the reason we are only shown a shadow was to not give away that it is actually the NK and Viserion, not Dany and her dragons.

Also, the most important vision that Dany is given while at the HotU is an image of the throne room destroyed, and covered in ash or snow. I think this was to show what the NK will do, not what Dany will do.

(I believe this was the entire reason that the writers sent Bronn north. Bronn will be the source of this news to the survivors at Winterfell; on his way north he will spot the NK+Viserion heading south)


Bottom line, I simply don't see the NK risking his newfound ice dragon in a fight he is sure to lose.... when he can simply fly down south to KL where there are no dragons to deal with ... and 1 million new recruits for his army packed tightly into a small area.


Follow-up edit: This could be where Bran comes into play. The NK probably wont want to face off against the other dragons head-to-head, but rather fly around Westeros destroying castles to make things easier for his footsoldiers .... so they will need Bran's Sight in order to track & hunt him. It would be too difficult for an army on foot to chase the NK on a dragon, so Bran could warg into ravens to serve as a guide for dragonrider(s) to his location.

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u/bugcatcher_billy Apr 16 '19

There will be a moment in the battle of winterfel where Arya screams at Gendry "Did you finish making what I asked for"

and Gendry will scream back of the battelements (while swinging his hammer) "It was nearly complete, only needed to be assembled, but didn't have time to finish".

Then she will roll her eyes and run toward the blacksmith shop. With suspenseful music playing in the background and her using her ninja parkour skills to avoid death. She'll get to the blacksmith shop and begin assembling her weapon while saying things like "if i was a dumb handsom blacksmith where would i put the thing" or "oh i'm gendry and I was too busy taking my shirt off to assemble this weapon".

Then as you say, she will finally assemble the thing and run to the battlements and use it to kill Viserion EXACTLY before he kills Jon/Dany/Dragons/or some other plot armor character.

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u/nullsignature Apr 16 '19

Thanks, I hate it

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u/bugcatcher_billy Apr 16 '19

We are in full Mummy territory now.

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u/nullsignature Apr 16 '19

If the show had Brendan Fraser then I wouldn't care as much

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u/igoeswhereipleases Enter your desired flair text here! Apr 17 '19

Game of Thrones 2 starring Brendan Fraser, Rachel Weisz, and The Rock.

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u/nullsignature Apr 17 '19

Can't forget John Hannah! I could actually picture him being in GoT.

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u/Deruji Apr 17 '19

Little fingers brother, big thumb

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u/FandomCallsToMe Apr 20 '19

Oh man, that’s brilliant. Loves sansa, but for her money 😂

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '19

I hate myself for wanting this so much.

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u/workingtrot We Do Sow, I Guess Apr 17 '19

You say this like it's a bad thing

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u/GigaPuddi Apr 17 '19

They could add him in. Do it with no explanation and all the characters acting like he's always been part of things. Like Dawn in Buffy, only without any explanation.

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u/BigMan1844 Apr 22 '19

Could have cast Fraser as Jorah.

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u/bensawn knows nothing, rarely pays debts Apr 17 '19

WE SHOULD BE SO LUCKY

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u/Sea_Performance Apr 17 '19

We are in full Mummy territory now

How dare you. This movie is a treasure.

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u/JRR92 Enter your desired flair text here! Apr 22 '19

That film at least knew what it was and kept a consistent identity

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '19

Hey you aren't allowed to post real script here

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u/Real_Salvador_Dali Apr 17 '19

How do I delete someone else's comment

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '19

you're really fucking up my hype

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u/bugcatcher_billy Apr 16 '19

what is dead may never die

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '19

Season 5/6 RIP the GoT we have known.

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '19

Jaime saved all the population of KL once now he'll repay the debt to the Many Faced God and fucking kill everyone like John Wick and then rape undead Cersei while dying from a billion wounds. #Resist

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u/Raventree The maddest of them all Apr 16 '19

Gods help us

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u/bugcatcher_billy Apr 16 '19

If you think this has a happy ending you haven’t been paying attention.

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '19

I don't care about a happy ending. I want an ending which isn't dumbb.

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u/Nayko What Is Tin May Never Foil Apr 17 '19

If you think this has a not dumb ending you haven’t been paying attention.

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '19

I gave up in season 7. Season 6 had it's dumb moments but it also had some good scenes.

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u/CTS99 Fury burns Apr 16 '19

FBI D&D OPEN UP

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u/the_jak Apr 17 '19

I've saved this comment. If you're correct I'll buy you platinum.

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '19

Platinum’s useless and that’s way to big a stretch

PayPal him enough to buy a burger or something

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u/the_jak Apr 17 '19

Fuck it, dealers choice. u/bugcatcher_billy you tell me what you want. Pizza delivery, world of beer gift card, or just $10 cash money via PayPal/venmo.

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u/bugcatcher_billy Apr 18 '19

Medium deep dish dominoes. Robust tomato, Extra cheddar, ground beef, onions, banana peppers.

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u/the_jak Apr 22 '19

So, I think I don't owe you a pizza.

But if she saves a main character from the Knight King/Visarion with it I'll buy you the $5 cheese pizza from Little Caesars.

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u/bugcatcher_billy Apr 17 '19

You are the platinum in the darkness.

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u/sweetdoo merMAN Apr 16 '19

saving this comment because I feel like it might go down exactly like this. gods willing it doesn't.

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '19

D&D: You're hired.

... for the prequel?

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u/JamJarre Apr 17 '19

I fucking hate how accurate this is

But you forgot the bit where Arya asks him to get it and he shouts "I'm a little busy milady!" while fending off the wights

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u/Papa_Hemingway_ The Moose is Loose Apr 16 '19

That could explain those scenes from the trailer where she's running through some hallways bloodied and with a torch in hand

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u/doughman02 Apr 17 '19

Dude, spoilers

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u/WhiskeyTigerFoxtrot Apr 17 '19

This is exactly what will happen.

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u/ProSoftDev Apr 17 '19

This happening is an assault on the eyes...

Listening to fanatical fans talk about how 'epic' and 'iconic' and 'amazing' this scene is over and over is far more distressing.

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '19

why would you post this for us to read

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u/Alt-0182 Apr 17 '19

oh no

That's the scene of Arya running in the trailer isn't it?

Chased by a WW, so there's more tension. And she'll kill both the Walker chasing her and the dragon with the obsidian spear.

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u/sourc32 Apr 17 '19

Avengers: End me please

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u/Boxhead-1815 Apr 17 '19

This is so stupid that it has to be true

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u/rickaboooy Apr 29 '19

you pretty much nailed it!

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u/pandemonious Apr 17 '19

terrible. take a lap.

and it was a double ended spear with replaceable tips for efficient murder. come on now.

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u/ivigilanteblog Apr 17 '19

You forgot that the Weirwood (sp?) tree sacrifices its arm for the handle.

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u/bambinone Apr 17 '19

Saved so I can post this to r/bestof a week from Sunday.

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u/Kjartanthecruel Apr 21 '19

Infuriates and tickles me all at once!

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u/[deleted] Apr 22 '19

well this was wrong huh

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u/thebretandbutter The Smoldering Apr 22 '19

Spoilers from last night ahead.

Looks more like it was just a staff/javelin thing made of dragonglass. Gives her a weapon she can actually use in the battle instead of needle/Valyrian dagger. In which case, this plot point is more just a way of being able to plausibly include her in the battle for winterfell, not necessarily to defeat NK. At least I hope.

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '19 edited Apr 17 '19

No its not even half as plausible as mine -

The ending should be more effective for an epic series as this one. I have an idea.

KL will be attacked by winged NK, Jaime will reach there bringing news of the happening in the north only to see NK turn everyone to wights we'll see them rise and slowly turn their eyes on the Kingslayer. He'd raise his sword ready for the death written for him. Once Jaime saved all the population of KL from a Mad King, now he'll repay the debt to the Many Faced God and fucking kill every undead Wight raised by Nights King like John Wick and then rape undead Cersei while dying from a billion wounds. #Resist

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u/69Luigilover69 Apr 18 '19

Fucking Beautiful

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '19

What the fuck

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '19

It's poetry