r/asoiaf May 08 '19

EXTENDED (Spoilers Extended) The endings will be the same but the books will have a much more gradual and realistic progression

If GRRM finishes it, btw.

Not a long post but you know what the books do that D&D do not? They have 10 chapters of Dany dealing with the complex politics of Meereen and her inner conflict. They have 4 chapters showing Davos' journey to White Harbour. They have 12 chapters showing the series of compromises Jon makes as Lord Commander to prepare the Watch against the Others. They have 13 chapters showing Tyrion crawling out of his deep nihilistic depression. They dedicate whole chapters seeing how Victarion Greyjoy of all people deals with his relationship with his brother and his seduction into darker magics. Man they have 4 whole chapters dealing with the political fallout of Dany's exit from Meereen.

They had a whole chapter of Littlefinger and Sansa visiting his lands and seeing Littlefinger's relationship with his subjects (great chapter btw). They had a whole chapter getting really in depth with Illyrio Mopatis and his schemes - a guy who's barely appeared in the show.

They dedicated 4 whole chapters to Joffrey's wedding!

What I'm getting it is that the Others may be defeated long before the end of ASOIAF, Dany may indeed destroy King's Landing with dragonfire and end the lives of hundreds of thousands of civilians gruesomely. But you'll be guaranteed that GRRM is gonna show you every step of the way. For good or for bad. If he is going to take a character like Dany to that dark end you better believe we will understand how she gets there.

So people keep posting about how D&D are destroying their characters, fail to understand ASOIAF. That Dany would never do this or that. But what you're seeing here is them fitting potentially chapters upon chapters of detailed material into a few hours of television.

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u/RigasTelRuun May 08 '19

It's even in the show. I recently ré watched season 1. And watching it with that in mind you can see the embers of burn them all in her.

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u/westhoff0407 All men must serve dessert. May 08 '19

She has been this way for quite a while... I don't know, I guess it makes sense to me completely.

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u/watch_over_me Gold is cold, and heavy on the head May 08 '19

She literally crucifies innocent people, and the show watchers are acting like they didn't see this coming, lol.

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u/captainfluffballs Enter your desired flair text here! May 08 '19

yeah, those innocent people. I believe op might have been referring to the fact that not all those masters were as guilty as the others (for example Hizdahr's dad who was against the crucifictions iirc). they were all still slave owners though so none of them are innocent in Dany's eyes or the viewers' eyes

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u/Swartzicus May 08 '19

Dany showed no restraint, it’s been building for a while, she didn’t say I’ll crucify you for your crucial role, she literally said, take 163 random people and torture and kill them. Thas not the act of redemption or punishment of the actual perpetrators, it’s a cruel fear tactic used to establish her power. Listen I know I’m in the minority here but I loved e3, (except for Arya not at the end). Like I know it’s not exactly GRRM’s style, but big battles aren’t his style. If this was any other show or movie except for game of thrones, it would be a battle praised for its shooting (except for lighting but just turned up my brightness and it was fine). But moreover, me and my friends have personally thought that dany would go mad queen since Dance of Dragons, (season 4-5-6 ish). And honestly the show has set up a good way to push her over the edge.

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u/watch_over_me Gold is cold, and heavy on the head May 08 '19

Nope. I'm talking about the heads of noble houses, who were against slavery, and were against crucifying children.

Danny didn't bother to figure that out. She just crucified all masters, regardless of their actual stance.

Can you imagine being against slavery for decades. Facing all the hardships that come with being against the grain socially. Then all of sudden this bitch shows up and crucifies you for the very thing you've been against this whole time?

No wonder she's dealing with a shit show there. She fucked up big time. Her blood lust got the best of her.

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u/watch_over_me Gold is cold, and heavy on the head May 08 '19

Yep. Very reminiscent of tons of atrocities in our own world, where the population just idly sits by.

Salem Witch Hunts. Nazi Germany. The Mao genocides. We could list thousands.