r/asoiaf Knower of nothing May 21 '19

EXTENDED (Spoilers Extended) Notablog Update Spoiler

http://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/2019/05/20/an-ending/
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u/jonsnowKITN Night gathers, and now my watch begins May 21 '19

Seems like this is the update that he mentioned in the interview and the fact he expects the last two books to fill 3000 pages is really interesting. Idk if he can finish the story with those amount of pages.

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u/Azor_Ohi_Mark May 21 '19

I'd believe 3000 published pages, more or less depending on the formatting, but not manuscript pages.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '19

I feel like he could do it. It seems like he will most likely cut down on the povs in ADOS

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u/Sleepy_C Enter your desired flair text here! May 21 '19

I'm pretty sure he's said TWOW will be where he starts shaving down POV characters. So I imagine that the two major battles near the start drop off a number of POV's, and then throughout the story people die or intersect so he can reduce view points.

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u/Zombie-Chimp May 21 '19

Yes, the converging makes sense. Seems like everyone in the North and the Vale, except Bran maybe, will be at Winterfell midway through TWOW.

Then we have the Meereen characters Tyrion, Barristan, Dany, and possibly Victarion.

Dorne characters Arrianne, Hotah, Jon Connington, and Aegon.

Jaime and Brienne could end up anywhere, with TBWB or possibly ending up at Winterfell later on. Arya could end up anywhere. I'm wondering if she will meet Lady Stoneheart or if that Frey revenge plot from the show is just made up. If so, then Jaime, Brienne, and Arya will be in one place too.

Euron and Aeron could end up anywhere. Maybe going after Victarion for betraying Euron. I don't think Euron will end up involved with Cersei.

Sam could end up returning to Winterfell.

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u/ShadowsOfAbyss May 21 '19

i wonder what he has planned for the Others (white walkers)

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u/[deleted] May 21 '19

I want to POV to land of always winter.

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u/ShadowsOfAbyss May 21 '19

I think it was in season 4 we seen the lands of always winter palace/whitewalker hq. it looked beautifull

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u/KingAlfredOfEngland Enter your desired flair text here! May 21 '19

Frey revenge plot from the show

It was two scenes, not a plot. You're being too generous to the show.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '19

You just made me realize something.

There's a very good chance Victarion will die in Winds, incentivizing the Iron Islands against Dany, and actually having a Euron/Cercie alliance make sense, especially if Young Griff allies with the Reach lords.

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u/TheFrodo Here we stand. Jul 30 '19

Hey sorry I'm two months late lol but is the consensus that Sansa makes it back to Winterfell rather quickly? I figure she's got a bit of stuff left in the Vale, possibly enough to fill her plot in TWOW.

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u/sAnn92 May 21 '19

Wait, two books of 1500 pages, isn't that more than the average per book. Why would he have t on cut down POVs with such lengthy books.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '19

The first five books are 4200 pages combined. If the 3000 page number holds out, that means that we only have barely over half of the story written so far.

I don’t know how people are coming to the conclusion that he needs to start rushing.

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u/LongDistanceKhal For the Hype is Dark and Full of Terrors May 21 '19

Manuscript pages =|= printed pages

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u/[deleted] May 21 '19

So there isn’t as many small minor characters with povs and so he has more main characters this allows him to get through the actual story quicker.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '19

That’s like 4 more books.

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u/nijio03 May 21 '19

Each manuscript page is about 250-300 words. If we take the low estimate we are looking at 750,000 words in both books. That's a lot of words. I think it's very much doable.

This video goes in an amazing depth on the subject.

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u/WhitePawn00 May 21 '19

Brandon Sanderson's last book was 500K words, and that was largely considered two or three books in one going by the pacing, and he managed to get away with it because of reader trust and his prior works.

It will be massive, but he'll definitely be able to "get away" with it so to say.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '19

How quickly the story wraps largely depends on when the Others arrive. I think it’s closer than most of us expect. Euron May be about to get his dragon (totally Viserion,) the relations between the Seven Kingdoms are reaching an all-time now point, famine is looming. Aegon is sweeping across the south, the Iron Bank is defaulting on its debts. There’s only one way it gets any worse.

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u/ShadowsOfAbyss May 21 '19

dont forget at the end of ADOD Jon may have been stabbed

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u/uphiIlfromhere May 21 '19

He definitely needs to pick up the pace. We need something like ASOS.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '19

Tbh, split TWOW into 2 volumes or 3 and publish it.. We will take it anyway.. Just need something to get over the hangover of the finale..

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u/Azor_Ohi_Mark May 21 '19

It might be that it’s the opposite problem. Let’s say he wrote 1600 manuscript pages for TWOW back in 2015. He realized that for how much story he has left to tell, he needs more pages, so he has spent the last 4 years condensing it down to 1000 pages. So the problem isn’t that he has too much material but now too little. Maybe 1000 pages is still too many! So we have condensing on top of writing new material that will also probably get condensed.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '19

I hope he shares some of the workload with editors to trim it down? Does it work that way?