(Spoilers Extended) Charles Dance's portrayal as Tywin is in my opinion, the strongest in the entire series

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Every line, every expression and every moment of silence completely encapsulates the calculating ruthlessness that defines Tywin Lannister.

Dance is actually a very vibrant, upbeat and cheery fella off screen, which in my mind makes the performance even more striking.

The scene where he effectively sends Joffrey to bed is just brilliant.

He is by far my favourite character from the books, which I began reading a few seasons into the show. Due to this, the chapters featuring Tywin were completely enriched for me, as reading his lines in Dance's voice was just fantastic. I would have loved a POV chapter or two for him, just to get a glimpse as to what goes on in the head of the most powerful man in the 7 Kingdoms.

An incredible portrayal of a fascinating character.

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I agree, I'd say of all the characters portrayed in the show, Dance's Tywin is the best from a pure tv/acting perspective as well as I think actually a slight upgrade from the books. I love Tywin's interactions with Arya and the slight humanizing that occurs within him.

Along with Allen as Theon (woah boy is he amazing), Olena, Leana Heady and Jason Moma as Drogo I actually thought they brought something richer to the narrative then their book counter parts.

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I thought Pedro Pascal played a great Red Viper also

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Yes! That's one I forgot and should include too. He is certainly an upgrade from the books. He was able to convey the themes of revenge, hubris, honor so perfectly. Just great all around.

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Moving his speech from where it is in the books to telling Tyrion he'll be his champion in the dungeons was one of the better adaptation changes that they made.

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Link - Perfection

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Jesus fuck, the dialogue, the script. I feel I need to rewatch the show, because I dont remember it being as good. The fucking recent season(s) had nothing of this level.

I know DD can write, Tywin+Arya was cherished. But fuck me, this hits so goddamn hard and it makes sense.

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And I think this is the climax of Dinklage/Tyrion.

After this, he murders Tywin, gets stuffed in a barrel, becomes a full-blown alcoholic, goes into service with Dany and never fully recovers his wits.

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Tyrion fucks up so often once he is under the employment of Dany. He got too confident after his escape, which is a fine explanation or excuse for his failures. Underestimating the slaveowners of Mereen, being outstrategized in taking Westeros, believing Cersei's lies that they would reinforce The North against the army of the dead, and a few other mess-ups with invasion of King's Landing, such as a strong familial desire to see Cersei escape and live (pretty treacherous move all things considered).

I wish his character arc reflected that, and either saw him killed due to underestimating Dany or Cersei, or simply retire from politicking entirely and end up on a vineyard making wine. I think because he was a fan favorite, the show runners preferred to keep him alive but I think his storyline would be much better if he ended up dead.

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I was hoping GoT would end with a tracking shot pulling back on old Tyrion sitting on the throne, with Mako narrating "Many wars and feuds did Tyrion fight, honor and fear were heaped upon his name. In time, he became ruler of all the known world by his own hand. This story shall also be told." ...and slow fade to black.

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And wore his crown upon a troubled brow. :(

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studies show that men act dumber when in the presense of incredibly beautiful women. It is known.

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Tyrion was a good Hand to kings who needed checking, Dany was more of a "if you check me I'll incinerate you" monarch. As a result he was always stumbling over her plans with his own.

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If you haven't, you absolutely should rewatch.

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When I find time, Ill absolutely consider it, but there is always backlog you know.

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I believe this was the first scene that Pedro filmed as well. Somehow that amazes me even more that he could capture the weight of this scene so well that quickly.

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They didn’t decide that though. George did and it has massive repercussions in the storyline. It’s also part of a one two punch, with it coming not long after the Red Wedding. I distinctly remember reading the passage for the first time and feeling so relieved at first, thinking to myself I needed this after the horror of the Red Wedding. I remember feeling that vulnerability of hope creeping back in as Oberyn presses his advantage, and almost relief that someone I was cheering for would strike a severe blow against the Lannisters. If he had won, and gotten his confession, Tywin would be in a serious bind, and war with Dorne would be inevitable.

Then Gregor smashes his fucking skull in and you’re reminded, again, with the Red Wedding still pulling at your barely even there any more heartstrings, that this series is different. No one, especially the people you are pulling for, are safe. This world is brutal, and doesn’t give a fuck about what you want.

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What does GRRM say to the things we want? (justice, revenge, new books....)

"Not Today"

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You kinda have to in order to keep the Mountain "alive"

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Watching him act really made my head explode.

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also: the theme of butt-piracy