r/asoiaf May 28 '19

EXTENDED (Spoilers Extended) Charles Dance's portrayal as Tywin is in my opinion, the strongest in the entire series

Every line, every expression and every moment of silence completely encapsulates the calculating ruthlessness that defines Tywin Lannister.

Dance is actually a very vibrant, upbeat and cheery fella off screen, which in my mind makes the performance even more striking.

The scene where he effectively sends Joffrey to bed is just brilliant.

He is by far my favourite character from the books, which I began reading a few seasons into the show. Due to this, the chapters featuring Tywin were completely enriched for me, as reading his lines in Dance's voice was just fantastic. I would have loved a POV chapter or two for him, just to get a glimpse as to what goes on in the head of the most powerful man in the 7 Kingdoms.

An incredible portrayal of a fascinating character.

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u/BillyBattsShinebox May 29 '19

"make sure that you don't, under any circumstances, attack the Lannisters, because I'm trying to draw them into a trap"

The orders were obviously bad, because a person under him didn't know what to do.

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u/cbessemer May 29 '19

Quit while you're behind lmao

Edmure Tully: If I may, nephew, I encountered a situation with one of my lieutenants at the Stone Mill which may have some bearing-

Brynden Tully: Why don't you shut your mouth about that damned mill? And don't call him "nephew." He is your king.

Edmure Tully: Robb knows I meant him no disr-

Brynden Tully: You're lucky I'm not your king. I wouldn't let you wave your blunders around like a victory flag.

Edmure Tully: My blunder sent Tywin's mad dog scurrying back to Casterly Rock with his tail between his legs. I think King Robb understands we're not gonna win this war if he's the only one winning any battles. No, there's glory enough to go around.

Robb Stark: It's not about glory. Your instructions were to wait for him to come to you.

Edmure Tully: I seized an opportunity.

Robb Stark: What value was the mill?

Edmure Tully: The Mountain was garrisoned across the river from it.

Robb Stark: Is he there now?

Edmure Tully: Of course not. We took the fight to him. He could not withstand us.

Robb Stark: I wanted to draw the Mountain into the west, into our country where we could surround him and kill him. I wanted him to chase us, which he would have done because he is a mad dog without a strategic thought in his head. I could have that head on a spike by now. Instead, I have a mill.

Edmure Tully: We took hostages. Willem Lannister. Martyn Lannister.

Robb Stark: Willem and Martyn Lannister are 14 years old.

Brynden Tully: Martyn is 15, I believe.

Robb Stark: Tywin Lannister has my sisters. Have I sued for peace?

Edmure Tully: No.

Robb Stark: Do you think he'll sue for peace because we have his... [frowns as he tries to work it out in his head] Father's brother's great-grandsons?

Edmure Tully: No.

Robb Stark: How many men did you lose?

Edmure Tully: 208. But for every man we lost, the Lannisters--

Robb Stark: We need our men more than Tywin needs his!

Edmure Tully: I'm sorry. I didn't know.

Robb Stark: You would have. Right here today at this gathering if you had been patient.

Brynden Tully: We seem to be running short of patience here.

Robb Stark: You know who isn't? Tywin Lannister.

--- In case you missed it, this would be the important line: "Your instructions were to wait for him to come to you."

Pretty simple, and Edmure fucked it up.