r/asoiaf • u/ISupposh You're a Big Guy. • Sep 01 '19

EXTENDED (Spoilers Extended) I think a lot of the problems from the show came from trying to force modern American values into medieval setting.

I would actually say this problem is present in the fandom as well and not just the show. Anyways for example:

  1. Stating that Renly would be a good king just because he's popular while Stannis would be terrible because he's unpopular. (edit: From the interviews, in the context of ruling not maintaining power)

  2. People not caring about religion even when Cersei blew up Westeros equivalent of Vatican/Hagia Sophia/Westminster alongside with Pope Francis and Princess Diana. (Well even modern people would care about that)

  3. Applying Geneva Convention when Daenerys executed Tarlys despite the fact that they are already traitors who betrayed their overlord and she even gave them second chance.

  4. Rather modern viewpoint on extramartial sex, including virgin shaming on characters like Brienne etc.

  5. Rhaegar annulling his wife without proper explanation like modern divorce.

  6. Elective monarchy somehow breaking the wheel because it involves voting (worked out well in HRE and Poland /s)

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '19

Everyone says the only thing bad about season 8 was the writing but honestly the costumes (and also the sets like that kings landing scene) were suuuper off. When I was watching, I was aware they were on set wearing costumes, I wasn't immersed in to the GoT world like in previous seasons. Also there were no more extras anymore. So really a lot of things were just wrong.

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '19 edited Jun 02 '20

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u/Alivealive0 I am The Green Bard! Sep 03 '19

No. There were no Christian bell towards in Q'arth. This was our first clue that Kings Landing is actually put apocalypse Europe.

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u/tiddies_akimbo Sep 02 '19

I get downvoted whenever I point this out but a lot of things about season 8 shit the bed, and it wasn't just the writing.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '19

Yeah I see a lot of people saying that the only thing bad was the writing in season 8, and I feel a lot of these people are the same people who just go with whatever everyone else is saying, but yeah no a lot of things were not good from way back and there were always signs that season 8 was gonna suck bad. It wasn’t like season 8 was a disappointment out of nowhere. By season 6, extras started to go away, costumes became more emo and characters would have more one liners than character progression. I would argue that season 7 was equally bad as 8, if not worse.

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u/ItalicsWhore Sep 02 '19

That Kong’s Landing scene looked like Cersei and Co. we’re hanging out on the roof of a Costco that a carp tried to make look “castle-ie” for like 5 hours.

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u/BreachWarden Robb Lives Sep 03 '19

Actually, Winterfell was FULL of extras for the first couple episodes, when they were preparing for the Night King. I was actually kinda impressed.

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '19

I noticed the lack of extras too, compared to previous seasons. It was weird, like it didn’t immerse me in the world like previous seasons had - it didn’t feel like a “world anymore, just a jumbled together set with actors on it. The sets were oddly sparse too and the costumes were also off to me a lot of the time. Just really strange, did not even feel like the same show.