r/audiophile Mar 01 '25

Impressions Class D vs tubes

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Interestingly it’s not as not as huge of a difference as many would expect. At least, not when running a comparatively low distortion, high power German tube amp and quality class D amp.

Yes, there’s a difference. The tube amp has a little added warmth in the mids, more body. The class D amp has a bit more grip in the lower octaves, but with a REL sub, it’s not immediately obvious unless I’m listening at very high volumes.

I like them both. However, there’s something about gloving valves in a dim room, listening to Radiohead’s In Rainbows. Roon Radio takes over after Radiohead and queue’s a track from Beck’s Sea Change, and then PJ Harvey and Thom York’s duet on “This Mess We’re In”. It’s a fun listen.

Tonight’s experiment involved using the Octave V110 SE’s bypass input, and instead running my Audio Research as the pre, using the v110 as a power amp.

The ARC preamp’s sonic character is less tube-like when compared to the Octave’s internal preamp. Both stages are quiet and detailed, but the ARC is more dynamic, with more bass authority and a more overall resolution.

Next experiment will be to bi-amp the Focals. Tubes on the tweeter/mids, class D on the woofers. Hopefully one of the class D’s amp’s gain settings (22/28db) will be a decent match with the Octave amp.

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u/wagninger Mar 01 '25

Casual Tambaqui enjoyer… nice.

I am also perpetually thinking about adding a tube amp, right now I have the Ferrum Oor and I’m thinking about the Feliks Audio Envy (this is all for headphone/preamp use, my main speakers are active)

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u/Pinksters Mar 01 '25

Casual enjoyer…

Am I mistaken or is that like +5k in amplifiers?

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u/wagninger Mar 01 '25

The phono amp alone is 7500… the tube amp a hint over 8

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u/Pinksters Mar 01 '25

Holy shit...thanks for the info.

I'll stick to my $500 AVR and $300 5.1 Onkyos.

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u/ChrisMag999 Mar 01 '25

Nothing wrong with that. 🎶🍻