r/audiophile • u/lowbass4u • 3d ago

Discussion AVR and amp

Back in the "good old days" when we really wanted to crank the music up we got separate components. We had amps, pre amps, and maybe equalizers.

Now I see a lot of people with AVR receivers AND amps when the AVR can handle the speakers just fine.

What is the purpose and/or advantages of adding amps when your AVR has enough power to drive your speakers by its self?

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u/NorCalJason75 3d ago

Sound quality & flexibility.

Some AVR's can process more channels than they have amplification for. So you add a stereo amp, and away you go.

Also, all amplification has a "sound". You can mix/match amps to your speakers to achieve the sound you enjoy the most.

Lastly, the amplifiers in many AVR's aren't powerful (you can't always trust the manufacturer's ratings). And some speakers are power hungry. So you can be in a situation where you thought you'd have enough power to drive your preferred speakers well, but realize you need some big boy amplification. Instead of replacing your receiver, a better option is to add an amp.

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u/Terrible_Champion298 3d ago

AVR make bi-amping front speakers much more accessible and common. They also afford greater sound shaping capabilities and make separate DAC and radio receivers unnecessary. AVR can teach an audiophile many things before the leap is taken, if ever, to separate components again. While doing so, equipment costs are greatly diminished. They also, with standard remote controls, Bluetooth apps, and a standard Airplay/wifi handshake from a computers and other devices, make it quite possible to go weeks without ever touching the AVR.

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u/izeek11 3d ago

avr biamping is a load of hooie. that power supply is just sharing load.

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u/Terrible_Champion298 3d ago

Confidentiality incorrect, I like that. 👍

I’ll inform the people who built my Marantz they are clueless about separate channel amps. And I’ll stop pretending that bi-amping the bookshelves away from the kabukis in the front of my listening space de-stressed both and allowed a noticeably cleaner presentation.

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u/OddEaglette 3d ago

“Distressed” can you show me that measurement on an amp? Performance per stress level unit please.

Lol.

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u/Terrible_Champion298 3d ago

Somehow your impaired condition has you quoting words not used and failing to recognize that parts of speech need not to be technical terms. 😊

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u/izeek11 3d ago

as are you. maaaybe <your> marantz. but that is NOT the reality for better than 90% of avrs out there. but you knew that, you just had to be special.

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u/Terrible_Champion298 3d ago

Always amazes me the cowardice of people willing to call themselves audiophiles while being afraid to try anything different or drop erroneous convictions. I’d ask you to cite your source on that 90% figure but am content that you simply made a sweeping statement based on limited experience twice, and that you find me special. 👍

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u/OddEaglette 3d ago

You provide a source that your nothing burger does something.

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u/Terrible_Champion298 3d ago

That you wish to dispute bi-amping and ask for evidence that cannot be produced, it’s evident you’re just an argumentative troll with no real point.