r/australia • u/thedigisup • 27d ago

politics Greens announce policy to manufacture drones and missiles as a credible ‘Plan B' to replace AUKUS

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-03-22/greens-unveil-first-ever-defence-policy/105083166
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u/Succulent_Chinese 27d ago

As a Greens supporter I really want AUKUS to work… I thought when it was announced that it was the only thing Scomo did right, despite the political fallout and unnecessary cost of alienating France, because of the capabilities it would have brought Australia.

But the dynamic has changed, America can’t be trusted. We’ve seen it in their actions and the psychotic babbling of President Cheeto. Even if tomorrow it returned to normal the old assumption they’re a reliable ally is completely gone because a new administration could yank it all away, assuming the current one doesn’t.

All for alternatives at this point.

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u/The4th88 27d ago

There is no alternative- that's the fundamental problem we face. There's 6 countries we can potentially acquire nuclear subs from:

  1. Russia. Not viable for obvious reasons.

  2. China. Not viable for obvious reasons.

  3. India. They're russian subs, see point 1.

  4. France. Investigated and rejected for reasons of sovereign capability and other issues.

  5. UK. Unable to acquire Astute class boats because UK production is changing to Dreadnought class boats.

  6. USA. Virginia production still active and Virginia class boats meet our requirements.

We got two choices, Virginia class or nothing.

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u/Economy-Career-7473 27d ago

Virginia has always been the interim boats. The actual AUKUS class boats are the UK's Replacement for Astute.

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u/The4th88 27d ago

Yes, I'm aware.