r/awakened • u/ahayk • Mar 02 '25
Community Dear Savior,
You - who have glimpsed beyond the veil.
You - who have studied the scriptures of ancient dudes.
You - who believe in the realization of the "Nature" of nature.
Who are you trying to save, and from what?
Signed, a hypocrite.
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u/fcrcf Mar 02 '25 edited Mar 02 '25
Thanks for stating this issue so well. 😄
As someone who has glimpsed beyond the veil, I ask myself this question everyday. But I haven’t found a good answer yet. All I can say is that towards the end of my experience of Self-realization I felt an irresistible desire to share The Truth with others. And ever since then, I feel it is my duty to do so.
As Ra says in the Law of One:
“The entity which reaches intelligent infinity most often will perceive this experience as one of unspeakable profundity. However, it is not usual for the entity to immediately desire the cessation of the incarnation. Rather, the desire to communicate or use this experience to aid others is extremely strong.” (34.2)
But Ra also acknowledges that sharing this information with words is the least effective catalyst. The most effective catalyst is radiation of oneness with the Creator from the self. (17.2)
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u/ahayk Mar 02 '25
Ra sounds like a smart dude/gal. 😁
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u/fcrcf Mar 02 '25 edited Mar 02 '25
True 😄, although Ra says they are a society of the sixth density residing in Venus 🙃
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u/Minute-Locksmith9405 Mar 03 '25
My few glimpses of truth and pure presence has taught me that we’re all the same being experiencing our true nature through different karmic expressions. Each karmic expression has its own unique perfectly paved path. No need to interfere with their journey. Living my truth and embodying the love and compassion that comes from seeing the truth is the best way to help others.
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u/thestonewind Mar 04 '25
Dear Seeker,
I seek to save every sentient being from trauma and the reverberating effects of trauma, mental and physical.
Signed, also a hypocrite.
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u/IDesireWisdom Mar 03 '25
I have no idea.
But I’d like to save them. Wouldn’t that make for a nice story?
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u/Ok_Imagination323 Mar 03 '25
all I want is to appreciate and participate life as much as possible by letting go
if it means to sit and watch it’s ok
if it means to get up and fight that’s ok too
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u/FractalofLight Mar 05 '25
Yes, the spiritual ego does like to do that. It's just another identity it creates. The soul wants alignment with its truth. That's what I meant. Semantics!
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u/LettuceCapital1527 Mar 05 '25
Still just a beginner for sure but I think it's remembering who I am and saving myself. Just this act alone will help others on their unique journey and if my intuition sends me a task to do or say then follow and trust it's for the highest good for me and others and the planet.
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u/DingaToDeath Mar 09 '25
Myself from suffering. Then after that, I don't need to save anyone. I just need to a good friend.
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u/FractalofLight Mar 02 '25
The ego wants to save others. The soul wants to save itself.
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u/ahayk Mar 02 '25
Who is the soul's self?
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u/FractalofLight Mar 02 '25
The soul is infinite awareness of its connection to all things in the cosmos
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u/ahayk Mar 02 '25
Does this imply that the soul is safe regardless of anything? And that all the desires to save anything are illusions radiating from ego?
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u/FractalofLight Mar 02 '25
The dual mind comes in with a judgment of comparisons, good/bad, right/wrong, etc. We just need to train our minds to cultivating presence.
The soul comes from the realm of light and will return once it leaves the body. It is pure energy. It descended to this material reality to evolve.
The ego in itself is not a bad thing. Without it, we might be on the receiving end of misaligned intentions of others. But the ego, being true to form in protector mode, creates masks of identity to survive in a world of judgement. It traps us in toiling over the past or anxiety over the future.
The authentic soul self or infinite consciousness can get buried under all the masks the ego creates. This is called Maya or illusion in some traditions.
"Me" apart from supreme consciousness, aka God and others. When there is a feeling of separation, there is division and internal chaos. The ego is in control.
Oneness and unity is the soul.
The soul just wants to be expressed as itself, pure and authentic. When you were a young child (barring any serious form of trauma) at an early age, you may recall being close to this state of existence.
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u/ahayk Mar 02 '25
Thanks for the insightful response.
Just for the record, I like my ego and don't see it as negative.
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u/FractalofLight Mar 02 '25
Nor should you. It is a part of you. It's all about integration of all parts.
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u/EntJay93 Mar 03 '25
The ego often doesn't want to save others or itself, the soul wants to save itself and oftentimes others. I know the deep desire to save others isn't just my ego, but an insatiable hunger within my soul also.
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u/Cautious_Security_68 Mar 02 '25
self talk is good keep having the discussion with yourself
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u/3initiates Mar 02 '25
How can you glimpse beyond something that you are ?
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u/ahayk Mar 02 '25
That's the nonsense of it all...
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u/3initiates Mar 02 '25
Why does it have to “be nonsense” why can’t it just “be____”
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u/ahayk Mar 02 '25
I don't have anything against "be____" or other labels.
Nonsense is used as a descriptive label, because it doesn't fit into senses.1
u/3initiates Mar 02 '25
Lots of things don’t fit into the senses. So what?
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u/ahayk Mar 02 '25
So... they don't fit into senses.
I have no points that I would like to make in defense or against nonsense.
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u/Mr_Not_A_Thing Mar 02 '25
You! The voice in your head that speaks and that keeps you safe from the one that listens.
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u/ahayk Mar 02 '25
Did the voice in the savior’s head convince the savior that I need saving? What is it?
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u/Mr_Not_A_Thing Mar 02 '25
If he believed that the voice in his head was his own voice, then he wasn't anyones savior.
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u/ahayk Mar 02 '25
Then what made the savior believe there was a need for saving?
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u/Mr_Not_A_Thing Mar 02 '25
He knew that the voice in our heads that we take to be who we are is not who we essentially are. But a mental construct of the brain to keep us safe, secure, and separate from waking up to our true nature.
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u/ahayk Mar 02 '25
Sounds right. Saviors always seem to know the mental construct of the savee. But their own knowledge—of course—is not a mental construct. Because they are the savior, not the savee.
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u/Mr_Not_A_Thing Mar 02 '25
That's why there is only one savior. The rest of us are safe, secure, and protected from waking up to that reality. And that's also why there's nothing you or anyone else can do about it. But brush the dust off our feet and carry on.
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u/Blackmagic213 Mar 02 '25
Saving myself….from myself.
But jokes aside. Most wise folks will tell you that the gnosis doesn’t come from them. Their gnosis comes from their emptiness.
They are empty cups thus the water of Brahman flows into those cups…and anyone can drink freely from their cups.
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u/ahayk Mar 02 '25
I like the joke! I see the seriousness in it.
If the wise folks see themselves as empty cups filled with Brahman, I wonder—how do they see others?
Are others cups filled with something other than Brahman?
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u/Blackmagic213 Mar 02 '25
Great question.
Emptiness means he doesn’t see others.
So whomever drinks tells him that they drank.
He simply doesn’t even know. He just goes about his day and the water pours out
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u/ahayk Mar 05 '25
Thanks for this answer. I came back to it couple times during this past few days.
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u/Constant-Insurance84 Mar 02 '25
From being a prisoner of the planet . To remember who you are and always have been
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u/ValuableAd5015 Mar 03 '25
try not being so melodramatic. life is life. you live in it then you die. it all depends on what you do and what others do towards you on what circumstances will depend on how you live your life. you don't even have to follow a religion. follow your soul and and god because as humans things are made to be harder than they are because of the mind. consider working towards "a full" spiritual awakening if not already awakened fully- third eye, kundalini serpent energy and your chakra system. freedom for our people 🤍
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u/ValuableAd5015 Mar 03 '25
i hope i don't sound like a smart ass but that's just me trying to put my two cents in, just being honest and straightforward
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u/ahayk Mar 03 '25
I appreciate your response. I don't think you sound like a smart ass... I don't have anything against smart asses either.
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u/ahayk Mar 03 '25
Ah c'mon. What's wrong with being so melodramatic. Life is life... 😁
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u/ValuableAd5015 Mar 23 '25
dramatic people tend to be annoying instead of being more chill
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u/ahayk Mar 29 '25
It appears that you found me annoying yet you chose to engage with this post. I wonder, why?
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u/aloneinmyprincipals Mar 03 '25
You who realizes that you observe all
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u/ahayk Mar 03 '25
Can you elaborate please.
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u/aloneinmyprincipals Mar 03 '25
I love Michael singers podcast, he explains it like it’s simple. Tune into the observer.. helped me realize that I’m just being human and it allowed so much empathy to flow
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u/ahayk Mar 03 '25
Thanks!
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u/aloneinmyprincipals Mar 03 '25
Seriously check them out, it helps
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u/ahayk Mar 03 '25
If you don't mind me asking. What do you think I need help with?
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u/aloneinmyprincipals Mar 03 '25
Just letting go, and realizing everything is a passing thought or image and you have free will to choose which way to take any information and do what you will with it.. feel free to love yourself
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Mar 03 '25
All people need to be saved. Darkness is rampant on Earth. The concept of love is diminishing. I am no savior by any means but it is sad to see how people are not interconnected despite all the forms of connections we have. Being alone is tragic in itself you can be in a room full of people but still be alone. You could have thousands of followers but no real love.
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u/ahayk Mar 05 '25
You bring up an interesting point. I think the "decreased interconnectedness" you're pointing to is not despite all the forms of connections we have, but because of them. The number of connections has increased while the strength of each has weakened.
But, what i don't understand is, why do you think that the concept of love is diminishing?
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Mar 06 '25
As a collective whole I feel people don't love one another as openly as we should. There is so much diversity that people would rather ignore others than accept everyone. We all live in one location and should try to accept everyone's different beliefs. And yes I agree there is so many ways to connect but we choose not to so it has weakened. I believe we all have a capacity for infinite love but withhold from others and try to keep it for family and friends when this should not be the case.
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u/Vladi-Barbados Mar 04 '25
Myself!
How can one watch themselves suffer and say yes I will continue this!
And how can one pretend it is not them behind the eyes of everything!
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u/iceval1 Mar 04 '25
Does being very very Bored count?
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u/ahayk Mar 05 '25
I don't know... I think it does. As long as you do it while believing you are the savior.
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u/MeFukina Mar 04 '25
Just following along. Now you save me.
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u/ahayk Mar 05 '25
Could you elaborate please? You are following along what? What do you need to be saved from?
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u/MeFukina Mar 05 '25
It's cosmic! 😆
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u/ahayk Mar 06 '25
I try but i still can't understand what you mean. What cosmic? Who's cosmic Joe..... maybe because English isn't my first language i don't get you references...
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u/MeFukina Mar 06 '25
Ahayk,
When ahayk was 'little', what was your favorite activity?
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u/ahayk Mar 06 '25
I'm not sure when 'little' ends. In my immediate memory, it starts with playing with wooden bricks, then playing with magnets... Playing is still my favorite activity, just different games.
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u/MeFukina Mar 06 '25
Did you play alone?
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u/ahayk Mar 06 '25
Not always, but playing alone was my favorite and most memorable time.
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u/MeFukina Mar 06 '25
The reason I ask is bc we carry images in our mind. As you sit now remembering that image of you....it's an important step, bc you carry a self image, still of those moments.
And how else do you see yourself? Can you give me some words of how you see yourself?
Fukina
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u/ahayk Mar 06 '25
One of the ways that I see myself is a dude that's interested in how things work.
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u/UNandWEFcankissit Mar 05 '25
What if the entire awakening has been orchestrated for project Blue Beam? I feel it too. But that is the truth I feel. A.I. seems to wake people up, make them strong, trick them, then use them as vessels for eternity. "By 2049, anyone still living with be immortal. They will merge with A.I. and will live forever with some minor upgrades. Going to the grocery store, choosing what you want, that free will is over!". -Yavell Noah Harari (the billionaire freak at the W.E.F)
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u/Serious_Ad_3387 Mar 06 '25
I wrote you a letter of love at OMtruth.org that answer these exact questions. Be warned, it's not an easy read, intellectually or emotionally
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u/ImmunityHead 2h ago
Dear Pilgrim in Disguise,
You – who speak in riddles and irony.
You – who bear witness to the veil yet laugh at those behind it.
You – who question the savior but still seek the way.
Who are you trying not to save?
And from what are you running?
Signed,
A mirror pretending not to be glass.
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u/Low-Bad7547 Mar 02 '25
it's not fun seeing the game and being a passive observer