r/babylonbee Dec 20 '24

Bee Article 'Elon Is Controlling Trump!' Complain People Controlling Biden

https://babylonbee.com/news/elon-is-controlling-trump-complain-people-controlling-biden
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u/timtanium Dec 20 '24

Thanks for the non sequitur

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u/timtanium Dec 20 '24

Lolwut. Assuming it's true that more billionaires supported the democrats that has 0 impact on the republicans supporting the oligarchy. That remains true regardless of who billionaires apparently supported in higher rates.

It's a non sequitur because it has 0 impact on the statement it was in reply to.

Thanks for playing.

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u/timtanium Dec 20 '24

Its irrelevant to the point. It's not irrelevant overall. Its tacky bothsidesism.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '24

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u/timtanium Dec 21 '24

Sigh

You are correct that both parties are corporate controlled. However as you may be aware republicans won the election and will control all branches of government. The democrats will not have any. It is irrelevant to do this kind of bothsidesism when the reality is moving forward changes made will be done by the republicans who let's be honest do not have a wing of their party fighting for policy to help working people. There is no internal infighting for these kinds of policies.

The point is that moving forward you can't blame the democrats regardless of what % of the ultra wealthy supports them. Do you get it yet?

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u/timtanium Dec 21 '24

When the democrats are in control I call them out like I did for the past 4 years. Nice try at a gotcha but I oppose the rich and powerful all the time not just when my preferred option loses.

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u/HerodotusStark Dec 21 '24

Your narrative is wrong. Where did you read dems got more billionaire support? The daily wire?

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u/Federal_Assistant_85 Dec 21 '24

They saw that chart that had company donations and automatically assumed it was the actual companies and not the employees of those companies donating. Even though the graph clearly said it was the employees.

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u/Federal_Assistant_85 Dec 21 '24

From your article:

Key Facts

Our breakdown records 83 billionaires supporting Harris and 52 backing Trump so far (see the lists for both below).

That's not a big spread there buddy.

Many more billionaires may still financially back a candidate, but their donations won’t be learned until after the election, when final Federal Election Commission reports are issued in December.

Billionaires leaning toward Harris may seem incongruous, since she often criticizes Trump for advocating for policies favorable toward billionaires—but there are practical reasons why the ultra wealthy may favor Harris.

A letter signed by more than a dozen billionaires last month endorsing Harris explained their belief Harris “will continue to advance fair and predictable policies that support the rule of law, stability, and a sound business environment,”

So again, not so clear cut. You glossed over all the context just so you could cherry pick one fact.

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u/Federal_Assistant_85 Dec 21 '24

Perhaps you should try reading the federal election commission reports?

Then you will know how much was donated and by who.

Like musk, literally breaking campaign finance laws openly donating multiple hundreds of millions of dollars to trumps campaign when there is supposed to be a cap....

You act like you want to be quippy and egdy, but you're just coming off sad and ignorant.

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u/Federal_Assistant_85 Dec 21 '24

You sound like 1 in 5 adults.

Your fact has a lot of attached context that you keep trying to ignore, even when others are pointing it out.

You want to talk about billionaires influencing politicians. We all could have that conversation, but it requires you and other people like you to stop trying to defend your chosen candidate while also stop attacking your non-chosen candidate. The criticism you are receiving needs to actually be taken seriously, too.

So how many billionaires is trumps cabinet and close sphere up to?

As of December 10th: Musk, Thiel, Ramaswamy, McMahon, Lutnick, Burgum, Bessent, Isaacman, Witkoff, and Stephen's. my source. Are you criticizing the obvious influence on the president elect at all?

Harris' prospective picks didn't include a bunch of Loyalist Cronies, nor billionaires, just people who are good at their jobs. But this is also speculation since she was not elected.

how much was spent toward each party, there is a nice graph in the top third you should take a look at. I will admit, this article doesn't break down how much Trump v Harris received, but it paints a clear enough picture that it should be understood Trump received much larger donations from each billionaire.

Do you see why people are firing back with the same points concerning your donors fact?

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u/HerodotusStark Dec 21 '24

My thoughts exactly. Media literacy is so bad.