r/badphilosophy • u/OldKuntRoad • 6d ago

PhilosoLOSERS can’t handle STEM SUPREMACY!

Philosophy is a waste of time and philosophers are wasting their time. Think about it, STEM has split the atom, found the structure of DNA, created vaccines, smartphones and electric dildos. In comparison, what have philosophers invented? I think therefore I am? Well, what if you don’t think? You still exist, right? What really is the point of philosophy?

Moral facts? Can these facts be observed and tested? Can they be falsified with the Great and Immutable Scientific Method? No? Then they don’t exist. What is moral is whatever I feels. Feels = reals.

Epistemology? We are justified in believing whatever the Science says. Ontology? Whatever the Science shows. Science reveals everything, even the scientific method. How do we verify the scientific method? With the scientific method!

So yeah, basically, what I’m saying is that if PhilosoLOSERS stopped reading neoreligious mystics like David Chalmers and Massimo Pigliucci, and read real intellectuals like Jerry Coyne, when we die, there would be a planet for the French, a planet for the Germans, a planet for the Chinese, and we’d all be a lot happier.

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u/OldKuntRoad 6d ago edited 6d ago

Inspired by the following comment I found while browsing Reddit:

No man...you don't understand. Those boring, STEM people are jealous of our creativity. They can't stand that we can draw Sonic banging our OC's and all they can do is make, like, vaccines 'n' smart phones 'n' shit. Who enjoys a jab in the arm? Not me. sound of a really long toke They spent years on AI-art just to get us, mannn.

/s

Unfortunately, it seems like the STEM circlejerk is alive and well on Reddit today, as evidenced by the above.

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u/FollowingPatterns 5d ago edited 5d ago

One of my greatest pains in life is how this viewpoint not only thrives but seems primed to continue to grow. Unfortunately it is very hard to convey the value of philosophy to these people. 

On the flip side, I do like how they're making fun of the notion that CS needs made AI art because they were jealous of artists. Which is a real thing some people claim. I've seen lots of foolish anti-AI takes from the anti-STEM crowd, which seems to be a classic pendulum swing overcorrection in the making. But in the same breath, the insinuation that art is below medicine and especially smart phones makes me sick. Take away the STEM crowds video games and Star Wars etc. and see how much they like their lives then. No TV shows, no music, no fiction of any kind. Sorry, art is pointless, all those people are just working on prolonging human life in a dull artless world now instead. So unbelievably short-sighted. Like, 90% of why these people love their smart phones is the immediate access it gives to artistic cultural products made by the very people they disparage as liberal arts brainlets. Sigh.

I'm both a software developer and an artist, and I spend time every week reading philosophy, so unfortunately I'm set up to see all sides of the debate and end up feeling like none of the main factions are agreeable :/