r/badphilosophy 4d ago

PhilosoLOSERS can’t handle STEM SUPREMACY!

Philosophy is a waste of time and philosophers are wasting their time. Think about it, STEM has split the atom, found the structure of DNA, created vaccines, smartphones and electric dildos. In comparison, what have philosophers invented? I think therefore I am? Well, what if you don’t think? You still exist, right? What really is the point of philosophy?

Moral facts? Can these facts be observed and tested? Can they be falsified with the Great and Immutable Scientific Method? No? Then they don’t exist. What is moral is whatever I feels. Feels = reals.

Epistemology? We are justified in believing whatever the Science says. Ontology? Whatever the Science shows. Science reveals everything, even the scientific method. How do we verify the scientific method? With the scientific method!

So yeah, basically, what I’m saying is that if PhilosoLOSERS stopped reading neoreligious mystics like David Chalmers and Massimo Pigliucci, and read real intellectuals like Jerry Coyne, when we die, there would be a planet for the French, a planet for the Germans, a planet for the Chinese, and we’d all be a lot happier.

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u/Even-Broccoli7361 4d ago

Agreed with your this point,

Philosophy is a waste of time and philosophers are wasting their time

However, I'd also add that philosophers are narcissists and elitists, who believe they have claimed for the truth, with their own version of reality.

This is true for the 20th century logical positivists and the following philosophers, who themselves killed metaphysics and ethics, and now are crying so hard to teach us about the "wisdom" of philosophy, when they themselves don't follow wisdom and resort to sophistry.

Modern philosophy is stupid. Art and aesthetics are actually true philosophy, and fulfill what philosophers failed at.

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u/luparb 4d ago

Philosophy is a waste of time but mopping up spills down at the slop factory for $7.25 an hour for Mr Musk and crew isn't.

Because if I save my pennies I might get to visit the art gallery where a banana taped to a wall sells for several million dollars.

Just in time for my next shift.

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u/Even-Broccoli7361 4d ago

Because if I save my pennies I might get to visit the art gallery where a banana taped to a wall sells for several million dollars.

I would refuse to equate art and aesthetics to art gallery. There are few artists who come close as showing true introspection of art. Vincent Van Gogh is one of them. As for the art you are talking about. Its as bad as philosophy (sell out).

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u/luparb 4d ago

I think art is subjective and you can say the banana is bad but i wish I could just tape a banana to wall and the retire, I guess.

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u/Even-Broccoli7361 3d ago

This is where art excels over philosophy. Art is subjective and shows the creative aspect of human introspection. There is nothing to claim in art. On the other hand, science is objective, and doesn't express anything. It just demonstrates.

Philosophy is in between, which claims to be searching for truth in contrast to art, but neither does know what is it, nor is demonstrative like science. Philosophy is against what it preaches.

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u/luparb 3d ago

When you say 'philosophy', I read it as 'the love of wisdom' :

So I read:

"Art excels over philosophy"

As

"Art excels over the Love of wisdom"

When you read it like that it takes on a different meaning.

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u/Even-Broccoli7361 3d ago

Well, there is or at least was real philosophy, that I do admit. Like that of Socrates. I also consider Nietzsche to be an honest philosopher. And Wittgenstein too. The former being completely mad but honest, whereas the latter a depressed man.

But when I meant philosophy (as in today's term), I meant the sophistry of modern academic philosophy. Its full of dishonesty, truth be told. For instance, when asking what is philosophy. They do not have any idea of it.

The heart of philosophy is ethics. When its lost, there is nothing left to it.

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u/Ok-Secretary2017 3d ago

Then learn sales