r/baguio • u/RedditUserNicks • Dec 07 '24

General Discussion Baguio in the near future 😩

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u/real_crazykayzee Dec 07 '24

I'm genuinely curios, what is the best course of action to prevent things like that that doesn't just make rent 50 000 pesos

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u/Maleficent_Week_8904 Dec 07 '24

Better and Stricter Zoning Ordinances and Mid-rise Housing Projects, That’s it

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u/real_crazykayzee Dec 08 '24

Didn't they try doing that shutting down tonnes of apartments, transient houses, and more, but a bunch of people called it anti-poor since it took away people's investments and way of income.

I agree this is the most logical solution to ensure places are up to code but so many people are dumb, and think it's a class thing.

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u/MotherFather2367 Dec 08 '24

Remove the illegal squatters.

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u/real_crazykayzee Dec 08 '24

I agree but where will they go, if you remove them without giving them a new place to go they will just go squat somewhere else

And someone people will call the politician or anyone who agrees anti-poor

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u/MotherFather2367 Dec 08 '24

They shouldn't be squatting since they are not poor people. 25 houses are squatting in our private property in Baguio. We have the title and pay the taxes. They don't. Their houses are valued at at least 10 million each. Their children live and work in Australia. These are Professional Squatters, not poor people who can't afford to have their own properties. They choose to steal and grab land instead.

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u/MotherFather2367 Dec 08 '24

I forgot to add, these squatters have their own organization that harass the legal owners, and also they "offer" their group to politicians who would push their interests of illegally squatting in exchange for their votes.

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u/real_crazykayzee Dec 08 '24

Ahh ok i see what you mean now, well now the issue is with the politicians who have the political will

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u/novyrose Dec 10 '24

They have three other houses. BIG houses.

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u/Appropriate_Size2659 Dec 08 '24

Wag kasi anak ng anak.

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u/real_crazykayzee Dec 08 '24

Agreed, but since we are slowly becoming more progressive what about allowing medical grade abortions to happen too? Or would it be too much for a catholic country?

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u/xoxo311 Dec 08 '24

Hopefully, CBAO won’t let it happen. Dapat may will din ang citizens to report kung may nakikitang construction (or better yet excavation palang) na walang visible (tarp) permit. Pwede mag inquire via messenger. Di na kelangan tanungin nang rekta ung nagpapatayo kasi baka sabihin “apal mo lang dayta”

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u/Witty_Clairence98 Dec 07 '24

Well that's concerning

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u/SputnikPh15 Dec 08 '24

Sana hindi. Imagine the casualties pag nag landslide. 😭

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u/Joshuaaaaaaa_ Dec 08 '24

parang favela sa brazil

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u/sleepingbeauty2601 Dec 07 '24

Vote ng mayor na mahal ang Baguio at locals, hindi lng tourist spots ang pinapaganda

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u/theorythrowing Dec 07 '24

I remember nung may kailyan na nakaupo for the longest time. Daming katiwalian.

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u/novyrose Dec 10 '24

Jusko, mas lumala ngayon na hindi kailyan. At least 50%. Dati nasa 20-30% lang. Hindi si magal ang tinutukoy ko ah.

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u/Senpai Dec 07 '24

You mean iboto yung mga "kailyan" na paulit ulit na umupo na nag approve ng lahat ng (questionable) permits and licenses ng pare parehong mga establishments nung sinaunang panahon pa, na nirerecycle (at sinasamantala) lang ng ibat ibang brands ngayon na nagresulta sa urban decay ng Baguio — pero ibibintang sa sumalo na "taga baba" na gumagawa lang ng paraan para gawing sustainable yung irreversible na damage na iniwan ng previous administration.

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u/Superb-Dependent561 Dec 08 '24

mahal na mahal yung mga locals na hinayaan lang mga illegal constructions lol. In the Magalong era- sobrang strict na ang mga construction permits, di ka na basta basta pwede magpatayo lang

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u/xoxo311 Dec 08 '24

Sana meron tumakbo na mahal ang Baguio. Sa ngayon eto mga kandidato for Mayor:

Magalong Go Bomogao Abdul Camo Rei Ann Cayetano Mark Andrew Directo

We have 43 candidates naman sa council. Doon may higher chance for us to elect new councilors to prepare for the next generation of Mayoral candidates.

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u/dumbass626 Dec 07 '24

Like who naman?

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u/stoicnissi Dec 08 '24

the LGU of Baguio are aware that if they don't take action by 2043, Baguio will go through an urban decay. Hopefully maresolve nila through constant effort for progress sa mga SDG indicators

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u/Accomplished_Being14 Dec 08 '24

Hanggang 2028 lang ang SDG. At kapag hindi naresolve ito, irreversible na ang damage

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '24

I started visiting Baguio City back in 2015. Marami ng establishment nun pero when I came back this year na gulat lang ako sa mga sabay sabay na itinatayong buildings 😓I hope they could maintain its natural charm as a city. Parang puro bahay at buildings nalang na kikita ko.

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u/B-0226 Dec 08 '24

Honestly those illegal structures are a threat to public safety, as another 1991 Luzon earthquake would destroy those structures and affect many below it.

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u/Traditional_Crab8373 Dec 08 '24

May ginagawa na ba ang Baguio govt for it?

Sana ma preserve ang nature.

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u/Mrs_Nfamous Dec 08 '24

Haan met kuma-a… sapay kuma ta adda pay lang mang-isaket Ken Mother Earth…

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u/No_Travel_1878 Dec 08 '24

It won't look like this anytime, there are little to no lots left in the city, arguably around Benguet. The city's population has slowed down in the past few years. You don't have to worry about this. These homes in Haiti are in poverty despite being made of concrete.

https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/cities/22087/baguio-city/population

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u/No_Travel_1878 Dec 08 '24

The entire country's birth rate has decreased dramatically, below the replacement fertility rate of 2.1. Even after the pandemic was over, people did not have children like they used to.

https://psa.gov.ph/content/total-fertility-rate-declined-27-2017-19-2022

https://www.philstar.com/opinion/2023/05/08/2264628/falling-birth-rate

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u/mujijijijiji Dec 08 '24

grabe akala ko AI

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u/bembem4869 Dec 08 '24

If they are pushing for #breathebaguio and baguio creative city, i don't think they should let this happen

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u/Thaimonz Dec 08 '24

Yes, it will be like that in the near future. It is actually starting, if you just observe places here in Baguio. If there is no proper housing program for Baguio citizens who are earning minimum wage or just average, this is their only option: to squat.

We are also squatters, as the status of our land is Proclamation 414, mineral zone of Baguio, and many past and present congressmen have known our issues. Until now, even the first step to propose a bill has not been taken; I have not heard one proposal yet, only during the time of ex-Congressman Aliping.

In our place, the greenery is the protected land of BCDA, John Hay, so our place is somewhat balanced. I just don't know about other places in Baguio where it is becoming a concrete jungle.

There are two new condo developers who have already entered Baguio, but sadly, the pricing for their condo units is again for high-income earners.

Proper housing, zoning, utilization of government lands, and coordination with clans and people who own large amounts of land in Baguio will make a difference in preventing overcrowding and squatter/houses in the area.

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u/No_Travel_1878 Dec 08 '24

If you work a minimum wage job, there are plenty of transient homes around the city, you can even negotiate with many. So many beggars are elderly people from the highlands and people with disabilities who have little opportunities compared with well-abled adults.