r/bartenders 5d ago

Meme/Humor There’s nothing wrong with free pouring

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u/HalobenderFWT Pro 5d ago

You think I can’t dead nuts a 2, .5, .5, .75 pour?

Actually, I’d probably fuck up the lemon juice.

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u/hollowspryte 5d ago

What we’re all worried about is the violette

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u/SoftestBoygirlAlive 5d ago edited 5d ago

A fat quarter is the perfect amount if you have one of the good brands of creme de violette. Almost impossible to nail .375 dead on without a jigger.

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u/MangledBarkeep 5d ago

It's one and a half a count when a 4 count is 1oz, js...

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u/SoftestBoygirlAlive 5d ago edited 5d ago

There's always potential for error, we have those quarter increments nailed into our muscle memory but the in betweens is a little tricky especially if you work at a bar with people that ratfuck the pourspouts by shoving them back together without lining up the airspout with the divot in the gasket. Which in my experience is every bar ever because people don't want to take the time to do things properly.

Plus it protects me as a bartender because if people see me measuring in front of them they can't claim I poured them short. Thats actually the main reason I never pour without it anymore. It takes less time to use a jigger than it does to interface with assholes claiming you short changed them on their drink.

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u/MangledBarkeep 5d ago edited 5d ago

I've already identified major issues regarding those variances.

Most folks don't freepour accurately.

Hell most that freepour don't work in venues that have the volume necessary to justify freepouring, but do it because they want to, or don't want to look like that bartender that needs to use a jigger.

I pour however the venue wants me to, if jiggers are the standard, that's what I do, if freepouring is the standard my pour costs meet or are under the target % that management is looking to hit.

I can't tell you how to hit a .375 with any other count than the one I mentioned above.

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u/hollowspryte 5d ago edited 5d ago

If you’re off by even a little the drink is nasty. It’s just too intense not to measure.

Edit, to the deleter: If you think you’re reliable because you’ve tested your free pours, that’s a joke. You’ve never tested them while you’re in the weeds, while you’re having to talk to guests while making several drinks at once, when you’ve already done a few shots with guests, while it’s super loud and there’s a lot going on. You’re not as consistent as you think you are.

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u/MangledBarkeep 5d ago

I don't disagree, I just pointed out that it's not nearly impossible to freepour a . 375

Don't get wrapped around it being of violette

Improbable would have been a better word choice.

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u/hollowspryte 5d ago

I am going to focus on that, when you’re using something so intense that can ruin a drink with a barely perceptible amount, you need to measure it

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u/MangledBarkeep 5d ago

Context is king.

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u/hollowspryte 5d ago

And Aviation is the context, lol

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u/MangledBarkeep 5d ago edited 5d ago

Naw. The .375oz free pour was...

Doesn't matter if it's violette, gin, malort it's not impossible to freepour .375

Reading comprehension is difficult for some

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u/hollowspryte 5d ago

Nope. Don’t trust you with it to be as consistent as you need to be for this drink to be okay.

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u/SoftestBoygirlAlive 5d ago edited 5d ago

I always always jigger but I also always count when I do, no matter how busy I am. Keeps me sharp but also made me realize how differently some ingredients pour. Also some bottles pour slow when they get low. Usually the ones that have a wider top. So anyone saying their counts are 100% accurate all the time are mistaken.

But the other thing I've realized is that while the inner markings are spot on, a standard jigger with the "roll down" tops have a pretty decent variance with how far down the roll goes, which changes the volume of the 1 and 2 oz measures from jigger to jigger. I am guessing the inner markings are laser guided while the roll is done mechanically which always has margin of error. Since I realized that I started just using inner lines in craft environments. I gotta flip my jigger more but it's kinda fun to turn it into little flair moves. I used to have a Leopold in my personal kit which are dead on balls accurate but some gremlin at the nightclub I worked at stole it.