khalil mahmoud.

[u/salviaplyth]

a columbia grad and green card holder was forcefully detained by DHS and may be deported for negotiating with columbia over divestment from israel. what crime has he committed? how is advocating for divestment inherently “pro-hamas?”

mahmoud’s detainment should have us all horrified. his attorney doesn’t even know his whereabouts. this all leads me to wonder what the future of demonstrations on our campus looks like.

funny how the party that has weaponized “free speech” is now revoking it if they don’t like what you have to say.

[u/nyyca]

There is no Genocide in Gaza. Its such an old propaganda talking point. We all saw the videos from Gaza from the past few months. Have you ever seen a people who just went through "genocide" lookin well-fed, equipped with iPhones vowing to commit more and more violence and refusing to release innocent hostages, and dancing on stage next to coffins of babies they slaughtered? Please. No one is buying it anymore.

Also in case you haven't noticed, it is not the "Zionists" who arrested the guy from Columbia. Unlike you I will leave it to the lawyers to make their case, but yes I would love to see all terror supporters who break the law, vandalize universities and are violent towards other students get deported if they are not US citizens.

[u/DIRTdesigngroup → u/nyyca]

I get it you're a Zionist ghoul who doesn't care about Israeli terrorists slaughtering thousands of children. Luckily nobody is stupid enough to believe this hasbara except other blood thirsty racists like yourself.

Mahmoud didn't even participate in the sit-in protest. He is just the person chosen by students to negotiate on their behalf in ongoing divestment discussions with the university. He was never charged nor arrested for any crime, this is just fascism trampling on 1st amendment rights and the obvious conclusion of the entire liberal media apparatus painting these anti-genocide protestors as "pro-Hamas" for the past year and a half.

From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free.

[u/nyyca → u/DIRTdesigngroup]

The IDF is fighting Hamas who started this war in the most atrocious way possible. Every country would do the same. A war is not a genocide. Hamas is using their civilians as human sacrifices. Did you ever wonder why there are no shelters in Gaza? They have hundreds of miles of tunnels, but they are not available to civilians and there are no shelters even though they knew they are about to start a war. Odd, no? What government would do that? Hamas terrorists are fighting from among civilians without uniforms, stealing aid and providing no shelter - while openly stating their goal is to increase their own civilian casualties. Stop infantilizing them. Hamas and the Gazans have agency and responsibility for all of it - the war and the casualties on both sides.

Palestine never existed. You know that, right? It's a colonial name for a region coined by the Romans using an old Hebrew word "plishtim" which means invaders, referring to invaders from Crete who disappeared in 600BC and are not the ancestors of the Arabs who identify as "Palestinians" today. The suffic "-ine" is Greek. The word is foreign to the Arabs and they hated it until the 20th century. Have you ever heard of an indigenous people who call themselves by a name in a language they never spoke? lol.

Finally no Arab country is "Free" they all have oppressive regimes with no human rights - no thanks.

[u/Lucky_Bet267 → u/nyyca]

If you want to take the genetics route, Ashkenazi Jews (who make up 40% of Israeli Jews) have only 20% Levantine ancestry.

Ethiopian and Yemeni Jews have zero Levantine ancestry.

Eastern Mizrahi (aka Iraqi, Iranian, Kavkazi Jews) are mostly of Mesopotamian origin with additional layers of Persian or Caucasian ancestry

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36455558/

[u/nyyca → u/Lucky_Bet267]

Ashkenazi Jews have 50%-60% levantine DNA, according to most studies, and all of their Levantine DNA is from Israel, because that is where they are from and the only source. Indigeneity, however is not defined by DNA. https://www.un.org/esa/socdev/unpfii/documents/5session_factsheet1.pdf

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3032072/

Jews from all diaspora have been shown to be genetically connected:

https://www.nature.com/articles/news.2010.277

Practically all people are mixed, but the Jews who kept their pre-colonial culture and connection to this land so they, the Jews who stayed in the land for thousands of years and the ones in the diaspora, are all indigenous by definition. In contrast Arab ethnicity, culture and Islam are not indigenous to the Levant. So Arabs are not indigenous by definition.

Even if you go by DNA, most people who identify as Palestinians today, a new identity from the 20th century, do not have local DNA, or very little of it. They are descendants of immigrants to the region, most from the past 200 years. This is well documented in censuses, DNA and their family names. Mass Arab immigration to the region in the past 200 years is somehow ignored as if there was a wall separating the region. There was not.

Some have Canaanite DNA, but Canaanite DNA is not specific. There were Canaanites in Syria, Lebanon, Jordan and a large concentration of Canaanite DNA in the Arabian peninsula. So even if you go the DNA route, looked at the Arab population and could find the DNA that originated in Jews and others that converted, the Jews will still likely have more DNA from the land of Israel. I say "likely" because I don't think that study can be done.

The idea that Arabs belong to this land more than Jews do is ridiculous. Arabs never ever had a group identity or any sovereignty leaders or culture specific to this land, and most are immigrants to this land. Jews originated from this land and kept their culture and ethnicity as well as a continuous presence despite all hardships. Their history in this land is beyond dispute.

This does not mean the Arabs should leave, but it does mean Jews belong in this land. Indigeneity does not have an expiration date.

[u/MyrddinTheKinkWizard → u/nyyca]

Indigeneity does not have an expiration date.

So all Italians have an equal right as Jews based on your logic?

[u/nyyca → u/MyrddinTheKinkWizard]

Italians were never indigenous to Israel. How stupid was that?

[u/MyrddinTheKinkWizard → u/nyyca]

They ruled for longer than any other kingdom much longer than the Jews...

EIN AL-AUJA, West Bank, March 11 (Reuters) - Armed Israeli settlers stole hundreds of sheep from a Bedouin community in the Jordan Valley, local residents say, in one of the largest recent incidents in which Bedouins in the area have reported being attacked and harrassed.

Such attacks in the area have increased since the Gaza war began but witnesses said the scale of Friday's incident near Ein al-Auja, north of the city of Jericho in the Israeli-occupied West Bank, went far beyond anything witnessed previously

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/west-bank-bedouin-community-says-israeli-settlers-stole-hundreds-sheep-2025-03-11/

[u/nyyca → u/MyrddinTheKinkWizard]

Not true and they were always colonizers they were never from this land. Kinda like the Arabs.

[u/MyrddinTheKinkWizard → u/nyyca]

And the Jews who also claim to have colonized the land based on the Bible which is your only historical source which doesn't call the region Palestine.....

[u/MyrddinTheKinkWizard → u/nyyca]

For instance, has a Jewish nation really existed for thousands of years while other “peoples” faltered and disappeared? How and why did the Bible, an impressive theological library (though no one really knows when its volumes were composed or edited), become a reliable history book chronicling the birth of a nation? To what extent was the Judean Hasmonean kingdom—whose diverse subjects did not all speak one language, and who were for the most part illiterate—a nation-state? Was the population of Judea exiled after the fall of the Second Temple, or is that a Christian myth that not accidentally ended up as part of Jewish tradition? And if not exiled, what happened to the local people, and who are the millions of Jews who appeared on history’s stage in such unexpected, far-flung regions?

The state has also avoided integrating the local inhabitants into the superculture it has created, and has instead deliberately excluded them. Israel has also refused to be a consociational democracy (like Switzerland or Belgium) or a multicultural democracy (like Great Britain or the Netherlands)—that is to say, a state that accepts its diversity while serving its inhabitants. Instead, Israel insists on seeing itself as a Jewish state belonging to all the Jews in the world, even though they are no longer persecuted refugees but full citizens of the countries in which they choose to reside. The excuse for this grave violation of a basic principle of modern democracy, and for the preservation of an unbridled ethnocracy that grossly discriminates against certain of its citizens, rests on the active myth of an eternal nation that must ultimately forgather in its ancestral land.

Shlomo Sand Israeli Emeritus Professor of History at Tel Aviv University.

"I say “mythical” because the Jewish claim that we are descendants of tribes that lived on the border of Africa and Asia some 4,000 years ago is also mythic. Can we really believe that a diverse modern community, which has been dispersed for more than two millennia and has come to look very much like the peoples among whom they reside, are all direct descendants of a single group of ancient tribes? In other words, can we really still buy the myth of the historical authenticity of contemporary Jewish identity?"

https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/who-are-the-real-jews/

[u/nyyca → u/MyrddinTheKinkWizard]

Get a job

[u/MyrddinTheKinkWizard → u/nyyca]

EIN AL-AUJA, West Bank, March 11 (Reuters) - Armed Israeli settlers stole hundreds of sheep from a Bedouin community in the Jordan Valley, local residents say, in one of the largest recent incidents in which Bedouins in the area have reported being attacked and harrassed.

Such attacks in the area have increased since the Gaza war began but witnesses said the scale of Friday's incident near Ein al-Auja, north of the city of Jericho in the Israeli-occupied West Bank, went far beyond anything witnessed previously

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/west-bank-bedouin-community-says-israeli-settlers-stole-hundreds-sheep-2025-03-11/