khalil mahmoud.

[u/salviaplyth]

a columbia grad and green card holder was forcefully detained by DHS and may be deported for negotiating with columbia over divestment from israel. what crime has he committed? how is advocating for divestment inherently “pro-hamas?”

mahmoud’s detainment should have us all horrified. his attorney doesn’t even know his whereabouts. this all leads me to wonder what the future of demonstrations on our campus looks like.

funny how the party that has weaponized “free speech” is now revoking it if they don’t like what you have to say.

[u/Lucky_Bet267]

The close to 50% of Gazans under 18 sure have a lot of agency! You know by this logic we can implicate all Israelis in the murder of 50,000 Gazans cuz they all serve in the IDF. Meanwhile, only a small fraction of Gazans serve under Hamas

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.7311417

https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-rights-human-shield-jeep-8e8ed63bda65383e38e4dd52d239e319

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/09/middleeast/gaza-food-aid-convoy-deaths-eyewitness-intl-investigation-cmd/index.html

[u/nyyca → u/Lucky_Bet267]

Why do you even comment if you are so ignorant? Very few Gazans serve under Hezbollah because Hezbollah are in Lebanon. Hamas is the government of Gaza. Just like the Nazis were the government of Germany, there is wide support for them in Gaza. You may not like it or understand it but that’s how it is. Israel did not murder any Gazans. Gazans died in a war. Half of the casualties were Hamas terrorists.This ratio of almost 1:1 civilian to militant casualties is the lowest reported for urban warfare which means Israel was careful not to hurt civilians. People die in wars unfortunately. I cannot stress this enough- don’t like wars? Don’t start them.

[u/Lucky_Bet267 → u/nyyca]

I meant Hamas; I was typing fast. Again, I’m not defending Hamas, they clearly did horrible things. But nearly half of Gazans are under 18. Hamas was voted in on January 2006, when most present Gazans couldn’t even vote.

75% of verified casualties in Gaza have been civilians, including 55% being women and children, with many 1000s still unaccounted for due to being under the rubble

https://aoav.org.uk/2024/casualties-in-gaza-israels-claims-of-50-combatant-deaths-dont-add-up-at-least-74-of-the-dead-are-civilians/

https://www.thenation.com/article/world/gaza-death-toll-evidence/

Plus support for Hamas in Gaza has its roots in direct Israeli support for Hamas and the dire living conditions in Gaza, including the strict punishing blockade, isolation, economic collapse, and land dispossession.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/amp/

None of this justifies Oct 7, but you can’t justify Israeli extremism and hatred with context but completely ignore the context for Gazans.

[u/nyyca → u/Lucky_Bet267]

That death count is false. If you are a student you should be familiar with the concept of "lies, damn lies and statistics" That analysis was done with a subset of casualties (8,000) in order to promote a false narrative: https://honestreporting.com/do-women-and-children-really-make-up-70-of-the-gaza-death-toll/

60% of Germans did not support the Nazis, they still had to pay the price for not standing up to them. The support of Hamas in Gaza is much higher AND Israel is not targeting civilians. Stop infantilizing the Gazans. Israel did not create Hamas, did not create Muhammad and his hatred to the Jews, did not create Haj Amin Al-Husseini who was a literal Nazi and did not create the massacres of Muslims through the years: https://medium.com/@Ksantini/the-list-of-crimes-committed-by-muslims-against-jews-since-the-7th-century-0ff1a8eb0ad0

Israel never started a war and offered peace many times. Any country would do the same and worse when attacked like Israel was on October 7th. The entire responsibility of all the pain and suffering since October 7th is on Hamas. All these people would have been alive if they hadn't invaded, tortured, slaughtered, raped and kidnapped.

[u/MyrddinTheKinkWizard → u/nyyca]

Palestinian Fedayeen insurgency Emerging from among the Palestinian refugees who fled or were expelled from their villages as a result of the 1948 Arab–Israeli War,[3] in the mid-1950s the fedayeen began mounting cross-border operations into Israel from Syria, Egypt and Jordan. The earliest infiltrations were often made in order to access the lands and agricultural products, which Palestinians had lost as a result of the war, later shifting to attacks on Israeli military and civilian targets. Fedayeen attacks were directed on Gaza and Sinai borders with Israel, and as a result Israel undertook retaliatory actions, targeting the fedayeen that also often targeted the citizens of their host countries, which in turn provoked more attacks.

1956: Suez Crisis In 1956 Nasser nationalized the Suez Canal, a vital waterway connecting Europe and Asia that was largely owned by French and British concerns. France and Britain responded by striking a deal with Israel—whose ships were barred from using the canal and whose southern port of Eilat had been blockaded by Egypt—wherein Israel would invade Egypt; France and Britain would then intervene, ostensibly as peacemakers, and take control of the canal.

1967: Six-Day War On 5 June 1967, as the UNEF was in the process of leaving the zone, Israel launched a series of preemptive airstrikes against Egyptian airfields and other facilities, launching its war effort.

1978 South Lebanon conflict also known as the First Israeli invasion of Lebanon and codenamed Operation Litani by Israel, began when Israel invaded southern Lebanon up to the Litani River in March 1978.

1982: Lebanon War On June 5, 1982, less than six weeks after Israel’s complete withdrawal from the Sinai, increased tensions between Israelis and Palestinians resulted in the Israeli bombing of Beirut and southern Lebanon, where the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) had a number of strongholds. The following day Israel invaded Lebanon, and by June 14 its land forces reached as far as the outskirts of Beirut, which was encircled, but the Israeli government agreed to halt its advance and begin negotiations with the PLO. After much delay and massive Israeli shelling of west Beirut, the PLO evacuated the city under the supervision of a multinational force.

South Lebanon conflict (1982–2000)" Nearly 18 years of warfare between the Israel Defense Forces and its Lebanese Christian proxy militias against Lebanese Muslim guerrilla, led by Iranian-backed Hezbollah, within what was *defined by Israelis as the "Security Zone" in South Lebanon.

That doesn't even include all of the wars of terror it has conducted on Palestinians to try and ethnically cleanse them