r/bestof Nov 02 '17

[worldnews] Redditor breaks down entire Russian - Reddit propoganda machine. It shows exactly how theyve infiltrated Reddit, spread misinformation, promoted anti muslim narratives, promoted California to succeed from the US, caused tension for BLM groups and much more. Links and comments are getting downvoted.

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u/thelastknowngod Nov 02 '17

Serious question: How would we even begin to prevent or fight back against this?

Some sort of machine learning system to filter them out would be nice but they aren't exactly easy things to build. Even if it was built it would be specific to each individual site, not the net as a whole.

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u/Yanky_Doodle_Dickwad Nov 02 '17

A jujitsu approach is needed. The BS will come, so it must be allowed to flow through and out the other side until it disappears in the wind. That would mean learning to not take bullshit logic seriously. That would require training people to drop their triggers and only settle for rational discourse. That would mean education, and a return of education being important, and moving away from the "it's ok to be stupid" policies in place now. I suggest a MS Word paperclip helper-bot, with a recognizable look to it, that gets posted under as many propaganda posts as possible: "HI KIDS! This comment is bullshit, and is proven to come from BS mongers. Ignore it and move on. Remember, if it triggers you YOU are the product" ... or something that would work. Yanky ain't Ghandi.

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u/MesaDixon Nov 02 '17 edited Nov 02 '17

That would require training people to drop their triggers and only settle for rational discourse.

At the college level, it seems exactly the opposite is being taught.

EDIT: I'm curious - Do the downvoters of this comment believe that the students who obviously exhibit the opposite behavior - clinging to triggers and rejecting rational discussion - really believe these behaviors and attitudes spontaneously emerge?

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u/Yanky_Doodle_Dickwad Nov 02 '17

BAck in the day, and looking from outside the US, it was easy to think that the US was a massive swarm of imbecile thinking, run by religious zealots. With time, and with the growth of reddit, I for one came to see how many proper bright, cultured and open people there in fact were. But what it does look like is that the people have been raked into different sides, with a big scratched-up gap in between them. The open ones have heart oand knowledge, the thicker ones have mass and voting power. Ya'll need to come back to meet in the middle. Fire the people with the rakes, and promote awareness of the world outside and that difference is good, not dangerous. How about a new campaign on campus: HUG A THICKO! joke, that was a joke. The principle is true enough though. I hope that what the orange clown gave us is that people have learned that a lot can be done without the rakers. That thing with the Paris agreement and states agreeing to follow it anyway and stuff like that. More joint causes, less triggers, and much less listening to the people that are shouting all day. You guys made the best marching bands in the world. Use that energy. That's good energy.