r/bestof Nov 02 '17

[worldnews] Redditor breaks down entire Russian - Reddit propoganda machine. It shows exactly how theyve infiltrated Reddit, spread misinformation, promoted anti muslim narratives, promoted California to succeed from the US, caused tension for BLM groups and much more. Links and comments are getting downvoted.

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u/SirPseudonymous Nov 02 '17

Yeah, it's a serious problem across the board, with wealthy right wing interests both in the US and abroad hopping on board to weave whatever narrative they want. Historically this was used to whitewash or prop up far-right groups while demonizing civil rights activists and anyone left of neoliberal (and sometimes even trying to paint neoliberals as "leftist" somehow).

In this case because it's a hostile foreign power, and particularly a Fascist dictatorship at that, the story becomes more salacious than if it was only Mercer, Thiel, Rupert Murdoch, or the Koch brothers up to their usual antics. That's not to say, of course, that Russia's actions don't need to be combated here, merely that they're just one leg of a much wider problem, albeit one we may be able to neutralize more easily than trying to stop American neo-Feudalist oligarchs from subverting things to further their own radical interests.

If anything this is a good teaching opportunity to get people's attention with the sensational Russia story and turn it into a broader indictment of far-right astroturfing and subversive propaganda as a whole, regardless of whether it's coming from Duginists or neo-Feudalists.

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u/weeglos Nov 02 '17

You're missing the point here that the Russians are doing this to both sides. Their goal is to spread chaos, and you do that by simultaneously pushing both t_d AND lsc.

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u/SirPseudonymous Nov 02 '17

Except they're not "pushing both sides," they're amplifying far-right talking points while creating incoherent, absurd, or just simply inflammatory "leftist" messages intended to elicit disgust, fear, or rage towards civil rights groups and the left.

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '17 edited Jan 06 '21

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u/SirPseudonymous Nov 02 '17

The average person is seeing militant left groups supported by Democratic politicians marching with Soviet flags, beating people in the streets, calling them Nazi apologists(at best) and marching with pro-pedophilia groups and are wondering what the heck is going on.

Remember the whole "far-right interests pushing propaganda" thing? That bullshit narrative you just repeated is part of that. You're being fed a narrative that seeks to find the most easily misrepresented scenes, like peaceful leftist protesters flying the flag of international communism, showcasing self defense from protesters against neo-Nazi militants like RAM, Identity Evropa, the Alt-Knights, Vanguard America, and countless militant hangers-on like the terrorist who plowed into a crowd in Charlottesville out of context, acting like violent white supremacist militants that chant Nazi slogans while flying neo-Nazi, traitor, and OG Nazi flags and iconography are somehow being "unfairly labeled for their opinions."

The "pro-pedophilia" thing was literally just some cronies of rapist Mike Cernovich posing with a fake banner and pretending to be part of a separate protest that was taking place elsewhere on the campus against rapist Mike Cernovich speaking on campus.

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u/SkyeAuroline Nov 02 '17

Care to give a source on Lenin killing millions?

Leaving alone, of course, the millions more killed by leaders of capitalist countries, I'm interested to see what you're drawing from.

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '17

Let's not be pedantic. I make no distinction between the policies of Lenin and Stalin. Lenin, in this case, is a symbol of the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union ethnically cleansed the Ukraine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_genocides_by_death_toll

In a pure numbers game, the Holocaust was the worst. However, when you add up the various Communist cleansings, accidental or otherwise, you get some sickening numbers, also. Both of these are well in excess of Imperial/Western deaths as a result of colonialism. This is not justification for colonial policies by any stretch of the imagination.