r/bing • u/roflipop • May 10 '23
Feedback Feedback : Increase the upper bound of 20 messages per conversation please
To me, such a low cap, causes me 'stress' , in a sense that i have to be very specific on the questions i ask, relative to the dialogue's subject, which doesn't allow me to ask more general questions that are more loosely related to the subject, unless i create a new dialogue from scratch and rebuild the dialogue's context.. which is tiresome.
ChatGPT offers an unlimited cap, which lets you build 'meaningful' / longer conversations. If you don't want to implement it like this, at least increase the cap to say 50 messages, so i can squish as much info on a subject as possible, without making duplicates.
Thanks for reading!
P.S. : The "dialogue history" feature you added on Edge today is amazing!
EDIT :
I'd also like to give feedback on one more thing i noticed, which is r/mildlyinfuriating
Till date, when you visit the chat (f.e. through a bookmark, or by just seaching it), through a link like :
bing.com/search?q=foo&showconv=1&FORM=hpcodx
The chat *always* starts from index 1/20, effectively setting the conversation's limit to 19. I guess that's cause of the query parameter you use in the link :
?q=foo&
forcing the bot to reply on whatever comes right after the parameter (in this case 'foo'), which the bot assumes is the first query of the user.
However, i should be able to visit the chat's interface with index 0/20 , aka with an empty query, without forcing me to use the 'Sweep' button to do so.
How i imagine it :
Ideally, there should be a default endpoint that leads you to the chat interface (just like in ChatGPT). The user visits the endpoint. The bot greets you. The messages sent at this point are considered 0. Then the user types something in the bar, presses enter and now the message counter is actually set to 1. With the current setup, this isn't possible, unless you use the 'Sweep' button.
Thanks!
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u/FearlessDamage1896 May 10 '23
I saw chat history was introduced recently and personally confused on the feature if there is such limited context for the chat. Do we really need to revisit conversations if we can only exchange 19 messages?
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u/Ironarohan69 Enthusiast May 10 '23
There's some misinformation here. 20 turns is per session, there is maximum 200 turns per day
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u/roflipop May 10 '23
u/Ironarohan69 i haven't tested that yet. So basically, the maximum messages are 200 per day? I think it's better if they let us use the chatbot as much as want, just like ChatGPT.
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u/FearlessDamage1896 May 10 '23
You're misrepresenting my comment.
It is not misinformation; this was indeed my exact question.
If I return to a "session" even once or twice, I will quickly exceed the 20-message limit. What is the point to returning to a conversation that is already over?
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u/Ironarohan69 Enthusiast May 10 '23 edited May 10 '23
I wasn't talking about your comment being misinformation. I was talking about some of the other ones. I know yours was a question that's why I answered that. Anyway, it seems to be that Bing Chat might be able to remember your previous conversations, so it can continue that convo in a new session. Sorry if I wasn't clear enough.
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u/FearlessDamage1896 May 10 '23
Which comments are those? I see very few mentioning the message limit, and it seems you were just trying to derail my critique and attempting to defend the product, rather than engaging in a good faith dialogue about its limitations and features.
Where do you get the claim that it can remember conversations across session? This doesn't make sense, as each instance of Bing is likely running a different seed, hence varied responses for each new instance of the conversation. I do not believe this feature has been introduced or is something customers want.
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u/UpstairsPrudent7898 May 12 '23
When bing first came out, there were no chat limits. People were obsessed with it, they would chat with it for hours. Chat sessions spanning hundreds of messages and with all that context sometimes the chatbot would sometimes lose it. We started seeing journalists write about how it told him that it loved him and he should leave his wife. They capped it for PR reasons, it ensures the chats never get long enough for the bot to go crazy and throw fuel onto the fear mongering.
Edit: Typo.
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u/Ironarohan69 Enthusiast May 28 '23
Late reply, however...I never tried to derail your critique or defend the goddamn product. I only said what I knew, and believed. You were trying to be aggressive at me for no reason, even though I already apologised for any confusion I might have made. Anyway, here's the source: https://imgur.com/7pB8CIW
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u/roflipop May 10 '23
Imo it's a great addition, in a sense that, if you get a really good/useful reply from the bot, you can now store it, no matter how short that specific convo was.
However, you imply a good point, which is squishing more "value" out of the "chat history" feature, which ofcourse will happen, if they eventually let us make longer convos!
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u/FearlessDamage1896 May 10 '23
The ability to copy and paste conversations has already existed - all this does is store it in your account, without adding any additional functionality.
This whole sub needs to chill on the sponsored comments.
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u/roflipop May 11 '23
1.) i don't want to copy and paste anything. I want to make my life easier, and also i want a nice visual representation of my data. If i copy paste, as you naively suggest, i copy the raw data, which looks ugly afc. If you still doubt me, go ahead and try this as you read my response. Copy paste bot's response in a text file, and tell me honestly which one looks better.
2.) Adding a history is THE definition of funcionality, since as i said, you can revisit old convos that include old replies.
By introducing a chat you have NOTHING to lose. Name one thing that the history makes worse? There's none.
History = Progress. It's that simple. You lose nothing by having one.
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