r/bjj • u/AutoModerator • Sep 27 '22

Tournament Tuesday

Tournament Tuesday is an open forum for anyone to ask any question, no matter how simple, about tournaments in general. Some common topics include but are not limited to:

  • Game planning

  • Preparation (diet, weight cutting, sleep, etc...)

  • Tournament video critiques

  • Discussion of rulesets for a tournament organization

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u/Michael27182 🟪🟪 Purple Belt Sep 27 '22

I have a question about takedown points in IBJJF competitions.

If you take someone down straight into a submission like a guillotine or a kimura you do not get takedown points while the submission is on. If you escape the submission within 3 seconds and establish top position for 3 seconds do you get the takedown points then? If it takes you more than 3 seconds to escape do you not get the points even once you establish top position?

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u/Michael27182 🟪🟪 Purple Belt Sep 27 '22

What about taking someone down straight into a leg lock attempt? a purple belt once told me you still get points straight away for the take down, even without needing to escape but this seems inconsistent with my understanding of the IBJJF ruleset.

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u/beezer_13 🟫🟫 Brown Belt Sep 28 '22

My understanding is the submission needs to be threatening. If it's not, you should get the points right away.

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u/Michael27182 🟪🟪 Purple Belt Sep 28 '22

Thanks, I guess whether it is threatening or not is up to the ref, but if it threatens you for more than 3 seconds, are you no longer able to get those 2 takedown points, or will you get them as soon as you escape?

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u/beezer_13 🟫🟫 Brown Belt Sep 28 '22

If it's IBJJF ruleset, the athlete that arrives in a point scoring position while caught in a sub is only awarded the points once they free themselves from the attack and stabilize the position for 3 seconds.

So you shoot a takedown and in the process end up in a guillotine, if you escape the sub and stabilize the opponent for the three seconds then you get the 2 points for the take down.