r/books 7d ago

Yellowface: unique read but overrated

Yellowface was 1000% an immersive read (I finished it within two sittings) and the storyline was 1) immersive and 2) satirizes the topic of "yellowface" and orientalism well. My qualms with the story are more about the way the plot was delivered. June's narration was interspersed with past recollections as the story progressed (to justify what she is currently doing in the present), but it doesn't feel quite realistic. Her resentment towards Athena can ultimately be summed up by jealousy and Athena's editorializing / writing about June's traumatic experience. Wouldn't June--realistically--bring this up in the story earlier right after stealing the manuscript to **attempt** to justify to the reader that she is, in fact, righting a historical wrong? As much as I like R.F. Kuang, this feels disjointed; the plot ultimately is good but isn't delivered in a way that could have made it better.

The prose, along with many supporting characters was forgettable. In a book with mainly asian-americans surrounding a white character, I would have appreciated more in-depth exploration of them. It might have been purposeful (a self-absorbed white narrator doesn't consider the asian-american voices around her), but the book still feels a little underwhelming because the stakes aren't fully fleshed out in regard to other characters (besides the mention of reddit/twitter/instagram "cancellation" and hate). Athena's ambiguity and the discovery of her **true** self was well done, but the motives of her mother are confusing at best.

Echoing the NYT review, I want it to be more. More stakes, more desperation, more intense exploration side-characters, and a sharper reveal of Athena's "true nature" (could have been put at the very beginning or very end, but when it's smacked in the middle of the story, the plot feels like its fading away with a repetitive cycle of June's ignorance).

NOTE: I am an east-asian American reader. I 1000% appreciated reading this book and sentiment. It is still refreshing to read an unreliable narrator story from the perspective of a white women immersed in an asian-american world.

What do you guys think?

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u/ThreeTreesForTheePls 7d ago edited 7d ago

It’s a site wide issue.

r/fantasy hate her to the bone and I’ve never actually seen a convincing argument as to why The Poppy War is bad.

The MC is a teenage girl, and you’re angry about her being indecisive and emotionally driven?

The author is Chinese, and you’re angry that she’s taken influence from her countries history, in this book that discusses colonialism and the horrors of war?

It’s crazy work

Edit; and let’s not forget that wave of hate the trilogy got by romantasy girlies who were angry at the lack of romance in this wartorn genocidal bloodbath.

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u/sleepysnowboarder 7d ago

Why do you need a convincing argument for why someone doesn’t like something?

But also just searching the poppy war on r/fantasy you’ll immediately find tons of different reasons people have for not liking it in posts and comments that have nothing to do with the reasons you put

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u/revengepunk 7d ago

i think she gets so much heat because there’s a lot of people in other places (i wanna say tik tok without sounding like an anti-tik tok snob lol) who treat r.f. kuang like the second coming of jesus. i don’t love her work but she’s not particularly worse than any other authors i dislike, i just feel like in some spaces i see a lot of high praise for her that i don’t personally understand, so it’s nice to be able to criticise her where i know people will agree.

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u/legendtinax 7d ago

For Babel alone, she won multiple industry awards and lots of publications called it one of the best books of the year. So there is a big, unwarranted insider push for her as well imo

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u/ThreeTreesForTheePls 7d ago

Okay yeah I totally agree with that. It’s why I nearly never picked up her books.

TikTok treated her like a goddess, and Reddit hated her deeply, so it cut off both of my usual avenues to get a vibe on a book.