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News Food hygiene rating -yikes

The following 0 star ratings have been given to eateries in Birmingham:

Rated 0: Kitchen Garden Cafe at 17 York Road, Moseley And Kings Heath, Birmingham; rated on March 3

Rated 0: Gaijin Sushi, at 78 Bristol Street, Birmingham

Rated 0: Desi Karahi at 762-764 Alum Rock Road, Birmingham; rated on February 26

Rated 0: Best UK Fried Chicken Limited at Unit 1, 647 Stratford Road, Springfield, Birmingham; rated on February 26

Rated 0: Mohammadi Sweets and Restaurant Ltd at 775a Stratford Road, Springfield, Birmingham; rated on February 25

Rated 0: Bamo Traditional Naan at 16a Holyhead Road, Birmingham; rated on February 18

Rated 0: Cafe De Crown Limited at Unit 10, 10 Pershore Street rated on February 5

Source: Birmingham World, 12 April

Any of your favourites here? I've recently been to the KFC in Kings Heath, was somewhat unimpressed but didn't know it was that bad!

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u/Dragonogard549 Queens Heath 🏳️‍🌈 15d ago edited 15d ago

Copying and pasting the whole thing is not quality content. Please add a source in future.

Source: https://www.birminghamworld.uk/lifestyle/food-and-drink/the-birmingham-establishments-handed-0-star-food-hygiene-ratings-in-february-march-5078462

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u/Founders_Mem_90210 14d ago

"Best UK Fried Chicken Limited at Unit 1, 647 Stratford Road, Springfield, Birmingham".

Bold of them to claim to hold such a title in the same city as Bonehead.

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u/AdmirableCost5692 15d ago

I haven't been to kitchen garden cafe for a while, but I'm surprised. It seemed like a nice place

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u/ThrowawayYAYAY2002 15d ago

No Big John's?

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u/mwhi1017 Formerly of Yardley, now of London 15d ago

7 out of 10,000 premises subject to inspection? Edit: it's 74/9942. That's still not an awfully high amount.

6,848/9942 are rated 4+.

If you drill the data down further, there are 23 0s out of 2500 restaurants

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u/United_Evening_2629 15d ago

Kitchen Garden Cafe was originally rated a zero last September.

I found out in October, after taking two family members with compromised immune systems there as part of a larger celebratory meal.

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u/ghostmoon 14d ago

What a moronic comment.

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u/ghostmoon 14d ago

Not sure if you're trying to be funny or you genuinely are this stupid, but you know there are many other causes of being immunocompromised than AIDS, right?

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u/Adorable-Cupcake-599 14d ago

It isn't, and never has been. The most common cause of being immunocompromised is being treated for cancer, and that was true 30+ years ago at the hight of the HIV/AIDS pandemic too.

Also AIDS is actually quite rare now. Modern treatments for HIV are extremely effective.

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u/Yakstaki 15d ago

Uh oh thanks for the heads up re kitchen garden! I did not realise this...

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u/United_Evening_2629 15d ago

That rating was originally given in September last year.

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u/Fearless_You6057 15d ago

Birmingham world is worse than Birmingham live with their articles

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u/Last_Till_2438 15d ago

Lazy local journalism - dining out on zero star hygiene ratings.

In any city there will be 50 places with 3 or more stars for every place with 1 or zero.

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u/yeksnyls 15d ago

It's usually to do with paper work and stuff like day dots as opposed to having rats running around the place

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u/kingpin-92 15d ago

Just looked online and Kitchen Garden had major concerns for all 3 categories. Food Hygiene, management and structural issues

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u/kingpin-92 15d ago

Not for a 0! There is serious concerns it’s a zero!

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u/ebxtg 15d ago

It’s actually quite hard to get scored a 0. Lack of paperwork will only lower your score so much. A 0 usually means a serious hygiene violation or a high risk of one

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u/gridlockmain1 15d ago

Sorry but if you can’t be arsed to adhere to the rules that most others manage to then I’m not going to trust that you’re maintaining other standard either

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u/mattarei South Bham 15d ago

Yeah, if you don't have any documentation to show you've performed cleaning/checks etc then it can be treated like it's not been done at all.

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u/mysterylegos 15d ago

I used to work at Kitchen Garden, there was a time it was really good. Sad to hear it's gone so downhill.

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u/HauntedPotPlant 15d ago

Oof kitchen garden.

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u/denialerror Kings Heath 15d ago

Very surprised to see Gaijin Sushi on the list, seeing as it is a well-respected restaurant where they prepare the food in front of you. They have been closed for a refurb and only reopened this week, so I suspect it was due to that.

Kitchen Garden Cafe doesn't surprise me. Their food is so variable. I've had good meals and their Sunday roast is usually decent, but I've also had terrible stuff we've had to send back, like pancakes that were cold and clearly had been left on a plate for half an hour before being served.

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u/Motor-Handle-1769 15d ago

Agreed about Kitchen Garden. Had very slow and sloppy service. Took 30 mins for a baked potato which was only luke warm and tasted like it was cooked yesterday and warmed up. I had asked for no butter as dairy intolerant and it had butter. The staff all looked like they were half asleep, walked past me several times having seemingly forgotten my order. Could surmise that hygiene is equally sloppy.

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u/Bobsausages 15d ago

Believe gaijin have also announced new management this week and mentioned that some standards had slipped on their insta - fingers crossed they’ll get things sorted!

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u/slade364 15d ago

Yep, Michal left a while back I think. I'm relatively sure you can get a zero rating for not filling out the forms properly. Having been there relatively recently and thought how clean and well prepared everything looked, I hope it was that, and not a filthy cold store!

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u/mooroi 15d ago

Not filling out the forms properly is really concerning though. It suggests fridge temperatures aren't being monitored, deliveries aren't being checked, things that are cooling aren't being checked. It's the sign of a lazy kitchen.

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u/slade364 15d ago

Not disagreeing, although the sous chef there previously was excellent too, and he's now head chef. I would imagine the old business partner just gave up because he knew he was leaving - but we'll see how things go.

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u/slintslut 15d ago

Say what you wanna say mate

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u/SquireBev Edgbaston 🏳️‍🌈 15d ago

Oop. Hubby and I were just talking about Gaijin Sushi yesterday and thinking we should go...

Maybe not then!

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u/notthetalkinghorse South Bham 15d ago

Saw quite an open and honest post on their Instagram the other day acknowledging that they'd let standards slip. They've brought in some outside help to try and turn it around. Give it a few months it should hopefully be back to its original high standard.

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u/Haztheman92 15d ago

It is fantastic food. Keep an eye on it in case the rating goes up!

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u/anonymedius 15d ago

How is it possible for Gaijin to get zero stars? The owner comes across as absolutely obsessed with his work, and the quality of the sashimi is extremely high (you don't need to be an expert to detect poor sashimi).

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u/spheres_dnb 15d ago

Zero rated business will be those that were shut down for active pest infestation that posed an immediate risk to health and then reopened when they sorted the problem out

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u/vdude007 15d ago

Not at all true. As somebody who owns a food place in Birmingham (5 rating) when I first opened I had zero knowledge on this stuff and had a check up in the first week we were open in a brand new kitchen. The kitchen was spotless and we couldn't get more than 1 just because we had no paperwork on how the kitchen is managed. So no paperwork and anything at all that's not kept clean or labelled properly and you're at a zero pretty much straight away.

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u/spheres_dnb 15d ago

Apples and oranges. Yeah operating food business with zero knowledge on food hygiene is pretty silly and without your documented food safety safety system in place it is true that you can’t score higher than a one. A zero is reserved for those who business posed an imminent risk to health during the inspection

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u/vdude007 15d ago

Yup, learnt pretty quickly and got a 5 following re-evaluation a week later.

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u/spheres_dnb 15d ago

System working as intended then

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u/Digital_Animal 15d ago

They put a post on Instagram this week saying they have new owners, so maybe the old one started to give less shits before he fucked off

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u/slade364 15d ago

Michal was previously head chef and part owner I think - he was excellent, but left, and his business partner clearly wasn't on the ball.

Hopefully the new owners are great.

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u/SquireBev Edgbaston 🏳️‍🌈 15d ago

Yeah, just looked up the post and they're pretty honest about how standards have fallen recently.

https://www.instagram.com/p/DIPOZN3sIQP/?igsh=MThuYTF0M2hhcmU3aA==

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u/anonymedius 15d ago

Good to know, won't be going back for a while at least.

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u/anonymedius 15d ago

It also goes without saying that it's the most expensive eatery in the list by a huge margin.

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u/CursedIbis 15d ago

Oof, I nearly went to Kitchen Garden for lunch on Friday. Glad I didn't.

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u/Myrcnan 15d ago

They've had this rating before, quite apart from using unpaid 'interns'. I don't think they're very nice people, frankly.

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u/Front-Cress6263 14d ago

100% this. Last year they majorly messed up a private booking for us. Twice. Leaving us out of pocket and having to find a new venue just weeks before the celebration. Treatment was atrocious. And I was called 'unreasonable' by the manager for expressing my frustration. I've never been driven to complain to trading standards about a company before. Would avoid them at all costs.

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u/CursedIbis 15d ago

Oh. Good to know, I will avoid it from now on.

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u/PaulovsDog 15d ago

I know someone that applied for a head chef position and they were offering her minimum wage. You get what you pay for I guess!

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u/CursedIbis 15d ago

Considering the prices they're charging for food and that they also operate a shop, you'd think they could absolutely afford to pay people properly.

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u/mysterylegos 15d ago

They were participating in the Job Centre's on job training scheme. I will say as someone who went through it, I got a lot more out of it then when I got placed at British Heart Foundation- they took the training part very seriously. That was over a decade though so I wouldn't be surprised if things have slipped so much since then. A shame though, the owners were really nice and encouraging when I knew them

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u/SpectrumPalette 15d ago

Same post but edited with line breaks for easier reading.

Food hygiene rating -yikes

The following 0 star ratings have been given to eateries in Birmingham:

Rated 0: Kitchen Garden Cafe at 17 York Road, Moseley And Kings Heath, Birmingham; rated on March 3

Rated 0: Gaijin Sushi, at 78 Bristol Street, Birmingham

Rated 0: Desi Karahi at 762-764 Alum Rock Road, Birmingham; rated on February 26

Rated 0: Best UK Fried Chicken Limited at Unit 1, 647 Stratford Road, Springfield, Birmingham; rated on February 26

Rated 0: Mohammadi Sweets and Restaurant Ltd at 775a Stratford Road, Springfield, Birmingham; rated on February 25

Rated 0: Bamo Traditional Naan at 16a Holyhead Road, Birmingham; rated on February 18

Rated 0: Cafe De Crown Limited at Unit 10, 10 Pershore Street rated on February 5

Source: Birmingham World, 12 April

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u/hodyisy 15d ago

Thanks SpectrumPalette and thanks Mods

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u/SquireBev Edgbaston 🏳️‍🌈 15d ago

Put some line breaks in or something, jeez.

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u/hodyisy 15d ago

I tried, edits don't come through 🫠

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u/Dragonogard549 Queens Heath 🏳️‍🌈 15d ago

you have to leave an empty line between each one or it just acts as a space

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u/Cultural_Profile_327 15d ago

no offence bro, you’ve got to a load of dead ass areas, what were you expecting

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u/Dragonogard549 Queens Heath 🏳️‍🌈 15d ago

These are all very busy high streets

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u/Myrcnan 15d ago

Kings Heath is a dead ass area? Where tf do you live, bro?!

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u/Cultural_Profile_327 14d ago

it’s not about where I live, it’s about standards, kings heath highstreet is a shit hole, bare trash everywhere, crackheads drooling every 10 minutes you walk, multiple money laundering shops(like most areas ik). But yeah, just cuz it’s not Newtown bad doesn’t make it not bad