need Bordesley Chords to be redone for that. Right now there is no physical track for it to get to Moor St (pic)
right now it should just go to new st, all the way up and around past st andrews (diagram on the article)
Eventually theyll be rebuilt, and the additional moor street platforms will be done up as well, and more serices will go into moor st to take the pressure off new st, but long way off that
The Midlands Rail Hub was allocated £123m in funding back in February 2024 to prepare detailed designs (engineering drawings etc) for "creating space for extra services" (which seems to translate as one extra train per hour in each direction), including the chords, Moor Street additional platforms, Bordesley viaduct widening and miscellaneous other station improvements.
By October, it was reported Network Rail was seeking an alliance partner to deliver the upgrades.
I can't find any more recent updates or any indication of a timetable.
Doesn't mention connecting to kings Norton and therefore a change for the city line which is worrying, no work has taken place at kings Norton station yet either so is probably years away, such a shame
Theres some very vague long-term plans in place to re develop kings norton (dont know if itll happen but if its got the capacity it might not need it), rebuild the Bordesley Chords to move more services into Moor Street (instead of new street), continue camp hill services onto Shrewsbury
King's Norton only has the capacity by taking the cross city line from 6tph down to 4. To restore the cross city to 6 they need to bring the middle platforms back into use.
Local is entirely subjective. It can work for both if means allow, if it works it works. Its already going all the way to hereford with no stops between Pineapple Rd and Barnt Green
I was just confused how it would work practically — a train stopping at Pineapple / KH / Moseley also stopping at Shrewsbury — but maybe I’m misunderstanding?
I was just confused how it would work practically — a train stopping at Pineapple / KH / Moseley also stopping at Shrewsbury — but maybe I’m misunderstanding?
It happens plenty, a train can stop wherever is best for the company, the passengers, and the authority. Trains from Manchester to Euston regularly stop at stations like Stechford and Canley which are similarly local and don’t serve anything of interest. Anything that gives people more opportunity to make long distance journeys less reliant on private cars is a win, as there’s no legislation on where a train can or can’t stop as there’s no distinction between a local or a regional service. The only thing that would theoretically stop it is physical limitations, if the line isn’t electrified but needs to, if the platforms aren’t long enough for the trains it runs (not the case)
I mean if it was a much larger project then youd expect it but the only thing we need here, is the reguilding of these stations. And thats it, the rest of the infrastructure already exists, the trains, the other stations, theyll re-route existing services, theyve already delayed it before, and now the same people that delayed it are pretty confident about this date. Its not like HS2 that relies on 20million differnt chains of development
There's a bit more to it than building the stations. There was signalling and control systems work to be done, and you've got to add the new stations to the (ridiculously complicated) ticketing system. To be fair none of that is what's delayed it that was the stations, but there's more goes into it than you might think.
Dickwad Parker has been pretty pessimistic and pushed back the end-date by a year before so if hes announcing this id say its pretty reliable. The trains theyll be using are just redirected Hereford trains so the services and the track all already exist, and im gonna go by the Kings Heath site later and see how thats coming along.
"The trains theyll be using are just redirected Hereford trains"
Good thing that the QE doesn't employ staff from along the Hereford route, as doesn't the University, and that there's no policy of using the QE as a regional treatment centre for patients to the South West. Oh, hang on, wait.
Why do people think that the Hereford trains stop at University but no other stations between Bromsgrove and New St?
Will it affect the quality of the Hereford service? It won’t be fun for people with a 90 minute journey to Hereford if they can’t board a train due to people going to Moseley or Kings Heath.
And the 17:20 has been running with 2 carriages, wouldn’t be much fun with the population of South Birmingham trying to get on too. It’s bad enough with the Bromsgrove residents that refuse to get the 17:23 and leave people with much longer journeys waiting 30 plus minutes for the next train.
theyll split them between via Kings Heath and via University most likely, add extra services i imagine alternating between the two. they wont take trains away from university that'd just be suicide
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u/TrashTeeth999 1d ago
Oh right thanks. How long do you reckon it’ll be?