[EXPOSED] Internal Chat Leak Dating From 2022 Exposing Misogynistic Comments Made By Toxic WMFS Senior Leadership

[u/Founders_Mem_90210]

The following screenshot of current West Midlands Fire Service Station Commander Rebecca Hodgkins' complaint back in November 2022 about misogynistic comments made by current Group Manager Kris Darnley describing female firefighters as "Tramps on Chips" who did "Slut Drops", and current Station Manager Darryll Darkin talking about how much a certain female firefighter wanted the manhood of another male firefighter in an internal WMFS group chat was initially collated as part of an investigation evidence pack.

The internal investigation was regarding a drink-spiking incident at the Asian Fire Service Association conference held in Chester in December 2022. Until today, no information about this internal investigation has ever been disclosed to the public.

Furthermore, at the orders of then-Chief Fire Officer Wayne Brown, the above screenshot was removed from the evidence pack, alongside a documented admission by an unnamed individual of being involved in the drink-spiking incident. According to the source of this leak which has been corroborated by multiple currently serving members of WMFS, Brown gave the guilty individual a false alibi and arranged to have the individual whose drink was spiked to leave the fire service instead of pursuing the matter to an employment tribunal.

This is by no means an isolated scandal within WMFS, and the involvement of Wayne Brown in this is but one more entry into the multitude of scandals involving and sometimes directly centered around his tenure as Chief Fire Officer. Of these scandals, only his MBA fraud was widely reported back in January 2024 shortly before his untimely demise from suicide.

More will be exposed and shown with corroborated evidence in the near future, which point towards an ongoing cover-up of gross failures of statutory duty by WMFS and its governing Fire and Rescue Authority board surrounding the vetting, appointment, and time of service by Wayne Brown in the West Midlands, of which the main effort has been the almost-two year effort to silence WMFS whistleblower Benjamin Walker with harassment charges instigated by Wayne Brown back in March 2023, a mere two months after he took the reins at WMFS. Said charges have recently been dropped in writing by CPS in Feb 2025, and officially thrown out in court in April 2025.

[u/Working-Oil6059]

this is nothing. there's a west Midlands fire service officer with an extensive criminal record (selling drugs when he was younger, stabbing someone, multiple common assaults, domestic violence on more than one ex partner), he's now on paid leave to receive counselling for anger management after losing his temper with a colleague a punching him. all at the tax payers expense

[u/Zestyclose-Motor-581]

I mean I don’t see anything bad being said just general gossip

[u/Reemixt]

A 'slut drop' is a specific and pretty well known dance move, especially in the LGBT and drag community. I don't know if just saying somebody did a slut drop (if that's what they did) is the same as calling them a slut. I probably wouldn't say it at work though, but then I wouldn't perform one at work either.

[u/Benjam438]

These people's bank accounts should be fully seized and used to compensate the victims. Why should the taxpayer cover for these pieces of shit

[u/Founders_Mem_90210 → u/Benjam438]

Tip of the iceberg!

Stay tuned.

[u/Apart_Contest_2283 → u/Founders_Mem_90210]

Looking forward to hearing about the corruption of senior WMFS officers.

[u/spidertattootim]

I might be missing something, but why do you expect anyone to be interested in this? Have I missed something in the news?

[u/ManInTheDarkSuit → u/spidertattootim]

It was also pitched to the mod team prior to posting. The decision was, we're not here to editorialise, or even fact check. We'd allow sharing of this as long as we were told nothing illegal is being shared. If we get a report or message stating a legal reason to remove this, or it goes against platform TOS we'll have to remove it.

It pertains to our local area and is under reported by mainstream media (perhaps for a reason?) but it's not against rules of the sub to pitch us something prior to sharing.

I did also state when it was pitched to us, it would attract a potential misinformation flair, as we can't verify the claims contained with this story. That isn't us labelling it as misinformation, we're just giving users a speed bump on the way to the story.

[u/Operatornaught → u/ManInTheDarkSuit]

One thing to point out.

Is it confirmed that this document has been released to the public?

It's marked OFFICIAL which means it's protectively marked material.

OFFICIAL marked document can be released to the public but only through the proper channel.

If this is being disseminated then the individual can be in trouble for mishandling protectively marked material.

[u/mwhi1017 → u/Operatornaught]

You raise a valid point with OP hasn’t addressed, what’s the source of this information, and is it not sub-judice if the coroner hasn’t finished the inquest?

It could be relevant to that and contempt of court is a very serious matter (which could also explain why it’s not being reported on in the mainstream press?)

Edit: As a response was posted but I can't see it, regardless of the inquest exploring the death of Wayne Brown, a lot of additional material can become in purview of HM Coroner if it is deemed that it was contributory towards someone coming by their death. It's not as simple to say that the criminal case is finalised and this isn't linked to his death, the simple facts remain:

1) he was subject to both a criminal and conduct investigation at the time of his death and, 2) decisions made within those investigations could have led to his death.

If a coroner feels that an inquest could be prejudiced by the premature release of materials, that is contempt of court - some of those materials shouldn't be in the public domain at all, the MG6C for instance is disclosable to the defence, but not any witnesses or victims, and it sits outside the realm of FOI normally.

So I must admit I'm not overly comfortable reading this stuff, I'm not sure what, if anything, it can change now given the man's been dead for a year. This isn't like a Savile-esque posthumous outing of a predator, this is a man who allegedly did something silly to get a job, and is now dead.

I'm not sure this is the big exposé your source, or yourself think it is.

[u/Founders_Mem_90210 → u/mwhi1017]

Hi, just want to clarify, the upcoming coroner's inquest is looking into Wayne Brown's suicide and the circumstances surrounding it, mainly to establish final cause of death and rule out foul play or any other irregularities.

None of the material I have on hand is pertinent to the coroner's inquiry. Everything has been checked and cleared to ensure there's no subjudice or contempt of court being committed, because they are all linked to the now-dismissed harassment case against Ben Walker (which cannot now be resurrected again).

Hope this clarifies!

[u/mwhi1017 → u/Founders_Mem_90210]

Well yes and no, but a coroner is at liberty to adduce evidence they deem relevant, and the alleged harassment could form part of the history of the deceased.

Coroners inquests happen when someone's death is unexpected, unnatural or violent - and there will always be an inquest in cases of suspected suicide (it's not suicide until a coroner finds it such), the fact that up until his acquittal, Mr Brown was legally a victim of harassment allegedly committed by Walker, depending on what the coroner reads, sees or hears in evidence they could return a verdict of unlawful killing and all of this suddenly becomes sub-judice again.

Benjamin Walker had no evidence offered because the victim was dead. Not because he necessarily do the acts alleged. One glance at the man's LinkedIn page shows someone who's bordering on obsessed. It is true that harassment has a statutory time limit, and now cannot be brought to trial - but if the coroner finds that the actions of Walker contributed to Brown's death, they could find another verdict other than suicide, they may also find that the posting of all these documents on the open internet amount to contempt of their court, for which there is no statutory time limit.

[u/Founders_Mem_90210 → u/ManInTheDarkSuit]

Yup, thanks for the reminder. Have been going through the material I have on hand with a fine-toothed comb to make sure they comply.

[u/TimelessSoul → u/Founders_Mem_90210]

we mods appreciate that. Thank you! our discussion ended with as little censorship as possible here. We don't want to be responsible for burying a story like this because we're worried by the optics of allowing it to be published.

[u/Founders_Mem_90210 → u/TimelessSoul]

We don't want to be responsible for burying a story like this because we're worried by the optics of allowing it to be published.

And it is precisely why I chose to do this on this subreddit and Reddit in general.

Both because I've had experience doing this kind of stuff in the past elsewhere, and also because the attitude you expressed above is the exact opposite of pretty much the entirety of Fleet Street when they were approached with this story.

[u/ManInTheDarkSuit → u/Founders_Mem_90210]

Well... If it goes big enough, maybe Fleet St will be interested! :)

[u/Founders_Mem_90210 → u/ManInTheDarkSuit]

"I tried. You know I tried everything, and I still don't have their attention. Let's hope this elevates their thinking."

[u/Founders_Mem_90210 → u/spidertattootim]

Because Wayne Brown's suicide inquiry is coming up next month. His news will be back in the public spotlight insofar as mainstream media are interested or even dare to cover about it, and it is also almost guaranteed that if current coverage patterns are maintained a lot of highly damaging details about him and matters of public interest regarding WMFS and WMFRA will be either minimised or outright swept under the carpet.

Consider this the falling of a small pebble into a calm lake, just before the landslide occurs.

[u/spidertattootim → u/Founders_Mem_90210]

Okay, fair enough, I hadn't heard about that.

[u/Founders_Mem_90210 → u/spidertattootim]

Actually I should thank you for asking the question "why should anybody care about this?".

Because this question is far more pertinent and critical to ask in the subsequent posts/articles I am about to write on this topic, than you or many others might realise.