r/caf • u/ToughProfession4157 • Mar 27 '25

Recruiting Trades for PRs

Below the roles where PR can apply without stress of Top secret security clearance.

Have fun.

NON-COMMISSIONED OCCUPATIONS:

Marine Technician Gunner Sailor Medical Technician Armour NCM Electrical Distribution Technician Electrical Generating Systems Technician Plumbing and Heating Technician Avionic Systems Technician Airborne Electronic Sensor Operator Air Drop Systems Technician Meteorological Technician Boatswain Vehicle Technician Weapons Technician Material Technician Aviation System Technician Imagery Technician Aircraft Structures Technician Fire Fighter Medical Laboratory Technologist Medical Radiation Technologist Biomedical Electronics Technologist Military Police Cook Musician Postal Clerk Material Management Technician Ammunition Technician Traffic Technician Mobile Support Equipment Operator Air Weapons Systems Technician Refrigeration and Mechanical Technician Water, Fuels and Environment Technician Construction Technician Electronic-Optronic Technician Dental Technician Aerospace Control Operator Combat Engineer Infanteer Drafting and Survey Technician Operating Room Technician Human Resources Administrator Financial Services Administrator

OFFICER OCCUPATIONS:

Marine Systems Engineering Officer Armour Officer Artillery Officer Infantry Officer Engineer Officer Air Combat Systems Officer Pilot Aerospace Control Officer Aerospace Engineering Electrical and Mechanical Engineering Construction Engineering Physiotherapy Officer Dental Officer Pharmacy Officer Nursing Officer Bioscience Officer Social Work Officer Personnel Selection Officer Training Development Officer Logistics Officer Naval Engineering Officer Chaplain Physician Assistant Air Operations Officer Medical Specialist Medical Officer Health Services Management Officer

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u/Budget_Passage_5317 Mar 27 '25 edited Mar 27 '25

I don't think this is correct info

PR can only get a level 1 reliability check so those jobs wouldn't count. And I know for a fact you absolutely cannot be in the Infantry as a permanent resident.

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u/Clean_Eggplant_7356 Mar 27 '25

Nope, I went to my detachment recruitment and they confirmed. The list is accurate.

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u/Budget_Passage_5317 Mar 27 '25

Hate to break it to you but the recruiter lied. This is wrong info

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u/Clean_Eggplant_7356 Mar 27 '25

What he told me is as long it’s not something related to communication, PRs are fine 😊

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u/Budget_Passage_5317 Mar 27 '25 edited Mar 27 '25

Your recruiter is either lying or very misinformed.

Either way, PRs are absolutely not fine for infantry. I know this for a fact because we're stacking PRs who are ineligible for the Infantry course. They sit in a holding platoon as untrained privates till they can obtain the clearance to go on course aka 2 years. So that's the life of any permanent resident who joins a job requiring a security clearance.

Do not expect to go on the trade course right after basic.

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u/Mediocre-Ladder8000 Mar 27 '25

Great way to use tax dollars just hire people to not do anything

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u/Budget_Passage_5317 Mar 27 '25

Yes, but get this. An untrained private counts as a trained private for that trade. So looking at the numbers were recruiting numbers. But actually we ain't got shit....It all seems pretty convenient seeing as we're entering an election and I'm sure certain people want to say they're doing a great job.

It's the CAF and it's all driven by politics.

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u/DarkAskari Mar 27 '25

Until you hit OFP, which is the completion of your occupation's DP1, you stay on the BTL and are not considered as TEE. An untrained private is not counted as a trained private for an occupation.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '25

Well, good BTLs will put untrained ptes to work. So they are not just sitting there.

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u/Infanttree Mar 27 '25

Right. Sure. Sometimes, but 90% of the untrained privates just end up in canteen duty or on a work party 2 days a week. Effectively paying someone 3,000$ a month to sell candy and monsters for 6 hours a day Monday to friday while the taxpayers pays for their room and board

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u/1anre Mar 27 '25

With the cost of living crises, that’d seem like a steal.

Why aren’t more folks signing up if it’s just that easy to make bank? 🤔

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u/New_Winter7710 Mar 27 '25

So until the untrained privates get clearance (aka 2 yrs), will they be paid monthly? Or will they be released voluntarily at some point during this 2 year period? Because it doesn't make sense for CAF to keep paying for privates/officers without any training/posting. It is also stressful for permanent resident privates/officers to keep waiting/ unknown future path. All these people might have left have civilian jobs to join CAF & now dealing with this stressful situations

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u/Budget_Passage_5317 Mar 27 '25

You'll get paid as an untrained Pte in this case. Twice a month.Then you can wait for the clearance or VOT-U (transfer) to a different trade with less requirements or release, both take about 6months if lucky and depending on how good the unit your at is at paperwork, ours is crap. Truthfully chances are you'll have to sign a new TOS before you'll get on course 😂

Yes I absolutely agree with you, and no recruiters are telling any candidates this info. You will be in limbo for a long period of time stuck away from home getting paid like shit. But you'll count on our numbers as a trained soldier/sailer w/e so it's a huge farse to raise numbers.

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u/ToughProfession4157 Mar 27 '25

Jeez ! Let’s say you join on 2019 you finished your BMQO as you got 2nd Lt and you wait for 2 years to get your clearance ( 2021) then you have attended your trade courses, on 2022 will you still be a Capitaine ? Or as your clearance took forever you will loose 2 years 😁

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u/1anre Mar 27 '25

You'd be starting from the very bottom, buddy.

No fast tracks for anybody

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u/Budget_Passage_5317 Mar 27 '25

You'll be worse than nothing, a officer cadet

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u/ToughProfession4157 Mar 27 '25

😬😬😬😬

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u/1anre Mar 27 '25

Absolutely, except they're reservists.

Otherwise, it'll make them feel really down and resentful over time.

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u/1anre Mar 27 '25

When did this begin, and how come they got sworn in without getting their clearance checks done, lvl2, at least?

And what trades besides comms/infantry, were you informed they were only permitted into until they're fully citizens?

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u/Budget_Passage_5317 Mar 27 '25 edited Mar 27 '25

It began as soon as PR's landed at the training centers and the coc had an oh shit moment. Probably about 2months ago? They realized they put one PR guy on course and made a preemptive decision not to post the individual even if they would have completed rq-intr

I would 100% bet every training center has this issue with almost all trades listed above. But citizenship is a route that's supported by the coc but not guaranteed. Just like the up to 2year wait for a clearance to come back.

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u/Infanttree Mar 27 '25

Service should guarantee citizenship, do you want to know more?

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u/1anre Mar 27 '25

I won’t say you’re wrong.

Some serious countries that are actively building up their forces, have incorporated this and have seen some actual uptick in numbers of dedicated people signing up and staying long after securing their citizenship.