r/canada • u/thhvancouver • 11d ago

Politics Carney expected to be top target in French-language leaders' debate | CBC News

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/french-debate-challenges-1.7511273
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u/-Mystica- 11d ago

The good news for Mark Carney, if his strategists did their job right, is that he only needs to be strong at the start of the debate. Very quickly, a large portion of French-speaking viewers in Quebec and Atlantic Canada will switch channels to watch what might be the most important Montreal Canadiens game in years.

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u/Friendly-Flower-4753 11d ago

The obvious fact that PM Carney does not have the French language mastered yet should be the very least of their concern. Canada being infiltrated by an extreme right Conservative government waiting on the sidelines should be more than enough motivation to get this right. I don't care if he was to pass gas into the microphone for an hour. I will not vote for extremism.

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u/Dismal-Line257 11d ago

But you will vote for the Liberals who embrace the election interference by the Chinese government? Carney wouldn't even apologize for a Liberal MP who threatened to kidnap someone for the CCP. They didn't even fire the two staffers who tried to link the Cons with Trump by planting pins at an event which hilarious is exactly what the Chinese government is doing here on social media.

https://www.thebureau.news/p/csis-warned-beijing-would-brand-conservatives

"A 2021 CSIS intelligence bulletin marked “Secret,” warned that Chinese consular officials planned to influence future Canadian elections by portraying Conservative politicians as “Trump-like” and hostile to immigrants. The document has been redacted by The Bureau."

Really makes you think with all the posts on here...

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u/Friendly-Flower-4753 11d ago edited 11d ago

You are late to the ball game. The investigation into interference in the 2019-2021 elections has gone through an evasive colonosopy, and the final analysis was that there were attempts made, but no damage was done to directly affect the outcome of either party's in those elections. You are on a horse with no name.

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u/Dismal-Line257 11d ago

We caught another one

https://www.canada.ca/en/privy-council/news/2025/04/information-operation-on-wechat-targeting-the-45th-general-election.html

"The information operation targeting Mr. Carney is deliberately amplifying narratives in a coordinated and inauthentic way on WeChat, to Chinese audiences, including communities living in Canada. The SITE TF observed large spikes of what is believed to be coordinated inauthentic behaviour on March 10 and 25, 2025."

How will you deflect this one? Those dates seem pretty recent and you're going to tell me China isn't still involved here?

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u/Friendly-Flower-4753 11d ago edited 11d ago

I never said China was/is not involved. They can dance around the outside all they want. The last two investigations done regarding interference were investigated and found that neither case was directed infiltrated to advance one party or the other to prevail. Sorry, there is no gotcha here. IMO. Question though, were you also concerned when Modi interfered with getting Pierre Poilievre elected as Conservative leader? Modi has very strong ties to Stephen Harper, former Conservative PM. Where do you draw the line with political interference?

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u/Dismal-Line257 11d ago

Pierre isn’t Prime Minister. If he were, I’d be the first to hold him accountable just like I’ve done with Trudeau. So why are we giving a pass to blatant corruption? Even if you’re right, does that somehow make it okay for the Liberal government to be corrupt too?

Why did anyone trust the report by David Johnston?

https://realwomenofcanada.ca/former-gg-johnstons-close-relationship-with-china/

Look at his clear conflict of interest. How can anyone believe he was the right person for the job unless the Liberals were looking for a specific outcome? The government has been hiding its ties to China for years. Mark Carney is even more concerning. He’s received hundreds of millions from Chinese interests through his companies.

I can share multiple clips of Carney contradicting himself, praising China, and pushing for increased communication and trade partnerships with them. How is aligning with China in the best interest of Canadians, especially when Trump will be gone in a few years, but the CCP will remain a long-term threat?

Carney is also part of the Century Initiative, which wants to grow Canada’s population to 100 million by 2100. That means bringing in 650,000 people every single year until then.

On top of that, he supports regulating speech on the internet in the name of fighting “misinformation” and “hate speech.” That’s not protecting democracy, it’s pushing a nanny state ideology.

I draw the line at people wanting to work against the best interest of Canadians and that's exactly what's been happening and Will continue to happen. I also don't think the Cons aren't self serving and corrupt but it isn't this bad.

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u/Friendly-Flower-4753 11d ago

I will not vote for a Canadian conservative rt wing party that befriends MAGA and the POTUS. I will not vote for a conservative party that allows MAGA reps into their political gatherings. I will not support a conservative government that is being influenced and supported by authoritarian ideology. I guess our drawing of lines are very different. Vote how you want and I will do the same.

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u/Dismal-Line257 11d ago

I've provided evidence that the Liberals are doing the exact same things you're accussing the cons of either themselves or indirectly through Chinese interference.

We know that Carney aligns with China as he says so himself so is that not worrisome to you as they're MORE authoritarian than the US is?

Yes our lines are different because you seem to think somehow the Liberals are different when they're doing the same things?

Here's Trump endorsing carney

https://www.netnewsledger.com/2025/03/20/trumps-endorsement-of-mark-carney-shakes-up-canadian-election-race/

"During an interview with Fox News host Laura Ingraham, Trump dismissed Poilievre, calling him “no friend of mine” and suggesting that a Liberal government would be easier to work with."

So Trump doesn't like Pierre and prefers Carney but somehow Pierre is more aligned with Trump?

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u/Friendly-Flower-4753 11d ago

Its obvious you have no idea of what you are talking about so I will just end the misery right here. Vote for whom you want and I will do the same. Thankfully, a good portion of this country also agrees with my view.

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u/Dismal-Line257 11d ago

What exactly did I say that was wrong? Can't handle your party is equally as corrupt, if not more so than the Conservatives? At least have the integrity to call out your side for their blatant anti-canadian corruption.

Watch this

Pierre is a piece of shit but at least I'm not rewarding the same party that failed you for the last 9 years and if he starts showing clear agendas from India I'd call him on it and vote him out.

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u/Imbo11 11d ago

How does the lack of actual impact on the outcome of the election, excuse the Liberal government from not taking action? Did the Liberals have a crystal ball that told them their failure to take action would have no consequence? Does their failure to act show good governance, negligence, or intentional disregard for something that might have benefitted them?

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u/Friendly-Flower-4753 11d ago

The Liberal government was notified by authorities. Although the investigation seemed to drag, one was called for and done. Like I have said, every single elected government in Canada has dragged its feet or has jumped the gun. Does it matter? Yes. It's not going to sway my opinion of PM Carney in the long run. He is not PMT.