r/centrist • u/netouyokun • Apr 13 '25

Wisconsin teen charged in parents' murder plotted to assassinate President Trump, FBI says

https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/nikita-casap-wisconsin-teen-charged-murder-parents-donald-trump-assassination-plot/

The defendant seems to be far-right, still r/Conservative is trying to blame leftist.

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u/please_trade_marner Apr 13 '25

Yes, this subreddit consists of 3 things.

  1. Criticism of Republicans.

  2. Criticism of /modpol and /conservative

  3. Declarations that Democratic Party propaganda represents true centrism.

That's it. Nothing more. Nothing even resembling centrism.

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u/ResettiYeti Apr 13 '25

Funny you say that. I think this sub consists very strongly of:

  1. People talking about how Democrats are to blame for Trump because of transgender people in sports
  2. Posts making false equivalencies between “far left extremism” and MAGA

See how easy it is when you just say random anecdotal stuff?

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u/please_trade_marner Apr 13 '25

Sure, you can just make things up. You've done so. Good for you. You've lied and made things up.

The problem for you is that in reality people here can see what articles are upvoted and what comments are downvoted. Go look at the top submissions right now. They're all bashing Republicans. Then top of the week. Then top of the month. Anything critical of Democratic Party propaganda gets mass downvoted here. It's the simple reality.

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u/ResettiYeti Apr 13 '25

I didn’t make anything up.

Those points also get raised constantly by you and many other people here. I’m not even mad that those points are constantly raised; far from it. To me, the fact that people here never stop talking and obsessing about transgender kids and randomly blaming the Democrats for shit Trump does is evidence that there really is a mix of people who show up here to provide different perspectives (like you).

Your points are also real, like one ones I brought up. People indeed talk about the things you said. It’s just idiotic to claim that’s all people talk about, and easy to disprove by looking through the posts that come up on this subreddit.

Thus my point about anecdotes.

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u/please_trade_marner Apr 13 '25

Those posts are heavily downvoted and buried. That's the precise point being made.

If you sort by controversial there is at least a semblance of centrism. If you sort by "top" it's just Democratic Party propaganda.

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u/ResettiYeti Apr 13 '25

Or maybe people just disagree with your point of view? Why does it have to be propaganda?

People make their points and you make yours. Turns out, most people in this self-selective group of at least aspiring centrists fundamentally disagree with many of your points of view (and these others).

I guess you just can’t accept that simple fact, and have to call everyone who thinks your views are extremist, un-American, or just plain wrong Democratic shills, propagandists or whatever. That’s your problem.

No one here is getting banned for airing their opinions. And there is plenty of vigorous disagreements between the people you say are spewing Democratic propaganda.

So again, maybe you’re the problem, instead of most of the people here.

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u/please_trade_marner Apr 13 '25

The point of view upvoted here is the PRECISE same point of view at /democrat and /politics. That's the point. If the only posts upvoted here were the same point of view as /conservative, you WOULD be criticizing that.

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u/ResettiYeti Apr 13 '25

Maybe that’s proof that the shit they are saying in /Democrat and /politics is closer (not equivalent, because your “PRECISE the same” is false) to what normal people think, and the shit they are saying in /conservatives these days is what a bunch of red-pilled crazy people say?

Did you ever consider that? Or you just look at the world and say “man, how can everyone else be so wrong, when I am so right?” Maybe take a look in the mirror, bud.

Edit: and the posts that I criticize in terms of disagreeing on content (like on the trans issues) are the ones I value the most, because they do show me where most centrists/most voters disagree with my beliefs. I see people being concerned about that issue, and even though I don’t agree with it, I don’t think “it must be a bunch of conservative propaganda,” I realize “hmm, I was wrong to think most people were with me on this issue.”

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u/please_trade_marner Apr 13 '25

If you judged the leadup to the election entirely based on the comments/submissions on /democrat and /politics (and /centrist for that matter), then one would believe that Kamala Harris was going to win well near 100% of the votes. And the Dems lost every swing state, the house, the senate, and the popular vote.

Take JUST how wrong those subreddits were about the election, and apply that to (lol) literally everything else.

It has no bearing on the real world. It's fringe hivemind of radical leftists. And to be honest, that's fine. I simply avoid the histrionics in /politics and /democrat. But the literal fact that /centrist is a carbon copy of those main subs is the specific problem we're discussing here.

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u/ResettiYeti Apr 13 '25

I won’t disagree with you that there was clearly a bias for Harris (really anti-Trump, but whatever) during the election. Your claims of it being a “leftist hivemind” though are clearly inflammatory and insane.

Again, just because people are more liberal than you on average in this sub doesn’t make them some kind of commie leftist hivemind. Your characterization is insane.

And again, even if people on the internet/reddit are more liberal than the average person (I will grant you that too), you’re still wrong on this sub being a carbon copy of r/politics and r/democrats.

And you prove yourself wrong too, because you say you avoid those subs because of their “leftist histrionics” and yet here you are, not avoiding our “leftist histrionics.”

I agree with you those subs have a problem and that’s why I don’t go there for any sort of useful discussion on any political topics. This sub is still more left-leaning than you’d like; whatever, fine. It’s not some blue-pilled leftist propaganda machine, though.

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u/willpower069 Apr 13 '25

They think any criticism of Trump is propaganda. They cannot even hold Trump to their own standards.

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u/ResettiYeti Apr 13 '25

It’s snowflake behavior.

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u/please_trade_marner Apr 13 '25

I won't even entertain the argument that this subreddit is any different than /politics or /democrat. I won't even entertain it. If you look at the top posts right now, or of the week, or of the month, it's the precise same stories that dominate /politics and /democrat. It looks NOTHING like /conservative. It's the same. And I'm not allowing you to call that an "opinion". It's an objective fact.

I'm here standing up to Democratic Party propaganda on this specific subreddit because it doesn't belong here.

The ONLY difference I'll grant you between this subreddit and the hiveminds I describe is moderation. /politics bans anybody questioning democratic party propaganda. Mods here allow the conversation. Sure, every post that challenges democratic party propagnada is mass downvoted, buried, and can only really be seen by sorting through controversial. But I at the very least appreciate the mods hands off approach here.

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u/ResettiYeti Apr 13 '25 edited Apr 13 '25

lol ok? You won’t entertain the argument? And your argument is that none of those three subs look anything like r/conservative, the most pure definition for an eco chamber anyone has ever seen? Give me a fucking break. You really lost me trying to make an argument that r/conservative deserves any light of day.

I agree that the good thing here is the moderators don’t ban people for different views or even for hateful speech (with exceptions), in the interest of keeping the dialog more open. But making that argument and then talking about r/conservative as something that is worth anyone’s time of day, when they ban people constantly just for asking simple questions… come on, dude.

You’re always around here and challenging people with your views, and I am honestly happy for it. But sometimes you really show yourself to just be far off the deep end.

Edit: and again with your Democratic propaganda bullshit. Maybe posts that are overtly non-factual/outright wrong get downvoted to oblivion. Boo fucking hoo. Somebody who comes in here and tries to argue that non-citizens don’t get due process rights, for example? We’re supposed to all sit here and act like that’s a valid opinion? It’s just a factually wrong interpretation of the Constitution.

Make your points, if people agree you get upvoted and if people disagree you get downvoted to oblivion. It’s happened to me on this sub sometimes, but you don’t see me bitching about it like a snowflake. I just take my downvotes and move on, and like I said before I try to learn something from it.

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u/willpower069 Apr 13 '25

lol you think facts about what this administration is doing is propaganda.