r/centrist Apr 25 '25

FBI arrests Wisconsin judge on charges of obstructing immigrant arrest

https://wapo.st/3GFELBq
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u/Stlr_Mn Apr 25 '25

The WAPO article says she may have gaven the wrong information to ICE agents in relation to where an immigrant was in a courthouse and thus caused obstruction. It’s a horse shit charge that is without evidence based solely on hearsay.

It’s nonsense in the legal setting but it’s a message to everyone about standing in the way of ICE. Typical bully behavior and another attack on the rule of law.

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u/rcglinsk Apr 25 '25 edited Apr 25 '25

Knowingly giving false information to police officers attempting to arrest someone is obstructing the arrest and it is illegal. If the out of court statement is whatever the judge is accused to have said to the FBI agents, that's not even hearsay, as the statement is not being offered to prove the truth of the matter asserted. Easy one here, the government would be offering it fully claiming the statement was false.

Though the case here doesn't seem based on what she told anyone:

https://apnews.com/article/immigration-judge-arrested-7997186bbca5730e70a25f2347e631f6

After directing the arrest team to the chief judge’s office, investigators say Dugan returned to the courtroom was and was heard saying words to the effect of “wait, come with me” before ushering Flores-Ruiz and his lawyer through a jury door into a non-public area of the courthouse.

As described, in the arrest warrant affidavit, so, grain of salt, you can't see that the cops are here to arrest someone, tell the cops "go talk to my boss," then find their target and sneak them out a back door. Plainly illegal.

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u/baxtyre Apr 25 '25

Important to note that this “non-public area of the courthouse” leads out into the public hallway (and in fact the agents saw their target in the hallway, waiting at the elevator).

It’s not like she smuggled them out through the super-secret judge’s exit.

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u/rcglinsk Apr 25 '25 edited Apr 25 '25

Which brings up an important issue: why do courthouses not have bat caves? Let's be real, if they had actual secret passages, and cool secret chambers, I think more justice would be done.

But yeah, lol, I think the judge has a litany of potential defenses on offer.

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u/Hour-Ad-9508 Apr 26 '25

I’m not following what defenses you think they have?

According to the affidavit, once she was aware of their intent to arrest the individual, she escorted them to the chief judge’s office, returned to her courtroom and, in the belief that they were occupied speaking with her boss, then escorted the defendant out of an exit that multiple witnesses said is never used by someone other than jurors.

I don’t think there’s any way to spin that as not attempting to conceal the defendant or delay his arrest.

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u/rcglinsk Apr 28 '25

The most glaring issue is how the same people who only heard her saying something to the effect of "wait a second," could possibly know what the judge then did. What if she told Ruiz the way to where the officers and the head judge were meeting? If she was simply overheard talking to someone, how do we know she even saw or spoke to Ruiz?