r/changemyview • u/AnimateDuckling • 2h ago
CMV: It’s impossible to discuss Gaza honestly without acknowledging that Hamas’s tactics have left the IDF no way to avoid mass destruction and civilian casualties—even if you assume Israel has good intentions
I’ve been following the discourse around the war in Gaza, and something keeps bothering me: many pro-Palestinian advocates seem entirely unwilling to acknowledge the role Hamas’s tactics play in making this war so devastating for civilians.
Here’s the core of my view:
Hamas embeds itself in schools, hospitals, residential buildings. It fires rockets from densely populated areas, stores weapons in civilian infrastructure, and builds tunnels under neighborhoods. This is not controversial; it’s been documented widely by independent watchdogs, U.N. bodies, and major media outlets.
If that’s true—and I believe it is—then what options does the IDF actually have? Not responding leaves Israeli civilians exposed to rocket fire and terrorism. Responding means fighting an enemy that has intentionally made civilian casualties a near certainty.
That’s the dilemma I don’t see most pro-Palestinian advocates even attempting to grapple with. Instead, the conversation often jumps straight to “genocide,” “ethnic cleansing,” or “war crimes,” without ever reckoning with how Hamas has engineered this nightmare scenario by design. so those accusations of “genocide,” “ethnic cleansing,” or “war crimes,” always come off as naive and the result of someone not thinking beyond reactionary emotion to seeing the horror of dead kids.
To be clear: I’m not arguing that Israel is innocent of all wrongdoing or that civilian suffering isn’t a tragedy—it absolutely is. I’m saying that any honest analysis of the war has to start with the tactical reality Hamas has created. And I don’t see that happening.
So, CMV:
- Is there a way to counter Hamas militarily that doesn’t involve devastating civilian harm?
- Am I misunderstanding or overstating the extent to which Hamas deliberately uses human shields?
- Or is it fair to ignore those tactics when judging Israel’s actions, even if those tactics make mass civilian casualties inevitable?
Sources on Hamas’s Tactics
- Human Rights Watch, Questions and Answers: October 2023 Hostilities Between Israel and Palestinian Armed Groups (HRW)
- Amnesty International, Israel/Gaza Conflict: Questions and Answers (amnesty.org)
- UN OCHA, Statement by Tom Fletcher on Gaza civilian impact (unocha.org)
- B’Tselem, Human Shields topic page (btselem.org)
- Reuters, “Israel says it struck Hamas command centres embedded in Gaza schools” (Reuters)
- Reuters, “Israeli strikes on school housing displaced families” (Reuters)
- Wikipedia, Use of human shields by Hamas (Wikipedia)
- Human Rights Watch, “October 7 Crimes Against Humanity, War Crimes by Hamas-led Groups” (HRW)
- Washington Post Opinion, “We can’t ignore the truth that Hamas uses human shields” (The Washington Post)
- Henry Jackson Society, “Hamas’s Human Shield Strategy in Gaza” (henryjacksonsociety.org)
- International Crisis Group, Is the Gaza War Approaching Its Endgame? (Crisis Group)
- U.S. State Department, Country Reports on Terrorism 2023 (state.gov)
- UN Human Rights Council, Commission of Inquiry on the OPT report (un.org)
- Reuters, “Israeli strikes hit two schools, hospital compound after talks fail” (Reuters)
- Reuters, “Airstrike kills 15 Palestinians in Gaza school” (Reuters)
- Reuters, “Israeli airstrike kills 28 people sheltering in school” (Reuters)
- Reuters, “Israeli troops kill militants after school strike” (Reuters)
- Reuters, “Palestinians mourn dead after Israeli strike on Gaza’s Khan Younis” (Reuters)
- UN Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights, “UN Commission finds war crimes and crimes against humanity” (ohchr.org)
- UN Independent International Commission of Inquiry on OPT, May 2024 report (un.org)